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First cycle help
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06 July 2008 16:25
Okay people.
Been training now for a few years, and after putting off my first cycle about 6 months ago, i feel i am now ready for one. I have read up quite a bit but would like some direct advice from you experts
Still quite undecided about what to go for. Want to keep it simple (no crazy stacks) and would need to be oral.
What would be recommended as a first cycle? Winny or Tbol (or any others) ? Can source most products easily from friends (they been on gear for years)
Main factor would be minimizing side effects, therefore would be sticking to relatively low dose. Would like to use Anavar, but unfortunatly the lottery win hasnt came in yet :D .
What PCT would you recommend? Again keeping side effects to a minimal would be ideal. Would chlomid be ok or Nolva?
Anyway, any comments appreciated
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RE: First cycle help
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06 July 2008 16:27
d-bol week 1-6 30mg ed pct day1 60mg day 2-11 40mg day 12-21 20mg start pct the day after your last tab edit- get some milk thistle about 1500mg ed weeks 1-6
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RE: First cycle help
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06 July 2008 16:37
i thought its best to start pct 4 hours after last tab ? as half life is only 3-4 hours ?
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RE: First cycle help
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06 July 2008 16:41
ORIGINAL: davec05lfc
i thought its best to start pct 4 hours after last tab ? as half life is only 3-4 hours ?
well if you take your last one before you go to bed just set your alarm to get you up to take your nolva  or just take it when you get up
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RE: First cycle help
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06 July 2008 16:44
ok haha
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RE: First cycle help
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06 July 2008 18:12
thanks for the replies, but from what iv heard and read about dbol, im not totally convinced. A mate did a cycle before, during he looked huge, but a few weeks later he lost nearly all his mass and strength. Also heard bad things about the bloating/water retention, acne, hair loss
Thats what sort of pointed me towards the tbol / winny?
Ideally i want some thing thats gonna add lean muscle mass, which is gonna stay. Is there such a product? (again would like limited sides)
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RE: First cycle help
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06 July 2008 18:55
Whats everyones thoughts on Stanozolol? Seems it has all the plus's of Dbol, without the water retention? Or am i missing something? Can you do (or is it recommended) to do a Stanozolol only cycle? Say 50mg ED, for 6 weeks Whats difference between Stanabol & Winny (arnt both Stanozolol?)
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