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gymjam

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Ketotifen confusion - 08 July 2008 12:41
Hi all,

I'm going to be running Ketotifen/Diphenhydramine along side Clen on a cut for the first time (first time with Ketotifen that is) but was a bit confused about the ketotifen dosage. Having read a few posts, some people say it's 1-2g while others say 1-2mg. Probably a typo for one but which is it?

Also, I found a generic Diphenhydramine on ebay (Kirklands) which says it contains 25mg. Has anyone used this one before? How many should I be taking? Getting 1-2mg from a 25mg tab sounds a bit tricky....

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ALLERGY-antihistamine-Diphenhydramine-HCI-400-TABLETS_W0QQitemZ150225253950QQcmdZViewItem?hash=item150225253950&_trksid=p3286.m14.l1318

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RE: Ketotifen confusion - 08 July 2008 12:57
ketotifen often comes in 1mg tabs

I have used that diphenhydramine before.....it kinda works, but had more side effects than ketotifen

1mg works better than 50mg, IME
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RE: Ketotifen confusion - 08 July 2008 13:11
Thanks Daari.

So the tabs are definately 25mg then and not 25mcg? I thought maybe it was a typo or something.

I take it breaking the tabs up would help with sides in that case? I could probably manage to break them into 3.5mg doses I guess...
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RE: Ketotifen confusion - 08 July 2008 13:14
No, what he is saying is 50mg diphenhydramine = 1mg ketotifen approx.

So take 2 daily, ideally before bed as they will make you drowsy.
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RE: Ketotifen confusion - 08 July 2008 13:18
yep.

I prefer 1mg ketotifen over 50mg diphenhydramine though....
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RE: Ketotifen confusion - 08 July 2008 13:59
Ahh. Gotcha. Nice one. Thanks for your help guys.
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RE: Ketotifen confusion - 08 July 2008 14:01
Just to add, I find them more effective when taken on an empty stomach
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RE: Ketotifen confusion - 08 July 2008 17:15
1mg ketofin at bed
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RE: Ketotifen confusion - 08 July 2008 21:16
is 1mg enough? i thought most people recommended 3mg
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RE: Ketotifen confusion - 09 July 2008 08:18
I have done 1mg ketotifon before bed and find sleep very good,should be OTC med that would be nice.
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RE: Ketotifen confusion - 09 July 2008 08:33
Is Diphenhydramine as effective as Ketotifen? What are the differences/side effects?

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RE: Ketotifen confusion - 09 July 2008 13:20

Is Diphenhydramine as effective as Ketotifen?

Not IME


What are the differences/side effects?


When I wake up after taking diphenhydramine I am often very lethargic and groggy. Not to mention that it clumps op fibres of collagen and keratin within the aqueous humour.....

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