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 Men Are More Likely To Commit Suicide ?
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Men Are More Likely To Commit Suicide ? - 08 July 2008 20:39
Am I right in saying that men are more likely to commit suicide than women ? I think I am and living with the same woman for 13 yrs I can think of lots of good reasons but does anyone have any scientific reasons for this ?


drab , I cant help thinking this is right up your street and I'd love your input
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RE: Men Are More Likely To Commit Suicide ? - 08 July 2008 20:43
i think there is a few differences.

statistically i seem to remember women are more likely to attempt it, men are more likely to suceed. men usually choose methods that are more likely to work, a greater number of women do it as a cry for help where as men are more likley to actually want to die from it.

if that makes sense.
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RE: Men Are More Likely To Commit Suicide ? - 08 July 2008 20:44

statistically i seem to remember women are more likely to attempt it, men are more likely to suceed. men usually choose methods that are more likely to work, a greater number of women do it as a cry for help where as men are more likley to actually want to die from it.


Interesting , thanks mate
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RE: Men Are More Likely To Commit Suicide ? - 08 July 2008 20:45
Because we have to put up with women
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RE: Men Are More Likely To Commit Suicide ? - 08 July 2008 20:46
feeling they have more pressure and piling the responsibility on themselves?
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RE: Men Are More Likely To Commit Suicide ? - 08 July 2008 20:47
Women drive us to it
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RE: Men Are More Likely To Commit Suicide ? - 08 July 2008 20:50


ORIGINAL: tuc biscuit

feeling they have more pressure and piling the responsibility on themselves?



just to expand, maybe feeling "If I don't provide xyz for my family I am a failure"? I dunno though

maybe feeling competition with other people?
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RE: Men Are More Likely To Commit Suicide ? - 08 July 2008 20:50
Depression in males is rife, it is however not the 'manly' thing to discuss this or deal with as you're percieved as weak

This obviously leads to the grand finale of lack of a coping structure and suicide

Women (generally) have a much better support system

You'd be surprised at the amount of times a bloke genuinely needs a chat and the lads will brush it off with a 'chin up, mate' or 'stop being a puff' comment

Oly time I've seen real support bloke to bloke is in the forces as although there is a lot of piss taking everyone is there for one another.

Look out for your mates, you might start noticing things
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RE: Men Are More Likely To Commit Suicide ? - 08 July 2008 20:51
Its the old stiff upper lip syndrome keeping it to ourselves while you cant stop the fairer sex rattling on about such tragedies as Corrie being shown late because the Champions League Finals on.
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RE: Men Are More Likely To Commit Suicide ? - 08 July 2008 20:52


ORIGINAL: James

Women drive us to it


Do you really believe that? As I see this as quite a serious topic and doesn't really warrant jokes
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RE: Men Are More Likely To Commit Suicide ? - 08 July 2008 20:52

Women drive us to it



Joking aside I'm a little worried about how much of a misogynist I'm becoming
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RE: Men Are More Likely To Commit Suicide ? - 08 July 2008 20:53
Must be official figures somewhere on the internet.
Men seem to hold higher positions within companies and with that comes extra stress, stock market, top banking jobs etc... im not saying women cant do the job!!!! im just saying its mainly men that do them.

where as women suffer depression more after child birth etc... lots of other reasons for both sides to want to commit suicide.
my ex tried to kill herself by taking loads of pills at my house, she admitted this was a cry for help... where as my mate at college killed himself.
If he was doing a cry for help he made it very hard for them to get any message and save him etc, he just did it.
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RE: Men Are More Likely To Commit Suicide ? - 08 July 2008 20:58

Men seem to hold higher positions within companies and with that comes extra stress, stock market, top banking jobs etc... im not saying women cant do the job!!!! im just saying its mainly men that do them.

where as women suffer depression


Cant agree with that mate. I suspect that the income of suicide victims is largely irrelevant.

Iirc young males are the most likely to commit suicide , long before they get stressful jobs.
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RE: Men Are More Likely To Commit Suicide ? - 08 July 2008 21:03
Look at it this way: If you had a vagina, would you ever consider putting an end to it all?

Women have so much to live for!
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RE: Men Are More Likely To Commit Suicide ? - 08 July 2008 21:05
Statistics, you say?



http://www.statistics.gov.uk/cci/nugget.asp?id=1092

Also, bringing age into the picture...

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RE: Men Are More Likely To Commit Suicide ? - 08 July 2008 21:05


ORIGINAL: AlasTTTair

Look at it this way: If you had a vagina, would you ever consider putting an end to it all?

Women have so much to live for!


Sound reasoning from the Biggie Smalls fan.
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RE: Men Are More Likely To Commit Suicide ? - 08 July 2008 21:06
but then how can anyone know?
how can anyone know who is thinking about committing suicide? unless they actually do it...

take bridgend... fraky place where they are all hanging themselves, been all sorts, young girls, young boys, etc then you have people in my area that keep jumping off farringdon and plaza car park into the road... all adults.

I'd also be interested in knowing how many of the suicides are classed as being suspicious... we had 2 girls killed here a while back, blatent cover up as to what really went on, they said suicide but it was so dodgy, yet case was closed without anyone looking into it. makes me wonder how many happen... also that fella that was part of the wmd iraq thing with the gov as well that supossedly killed himself.
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RE: Men Are More Likely To Commit Suicide ? - 08 July 2008 21:07


ORIGINAL: JohnKerr2

Statistics, you say?



http://www.statistics.gov.uk/cci/nugget.asp?id=1092

Also, bringing age into the picture...





do you have one that shows attempted suicides john?
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RE: Men Are More Likely To Commit Suicide ? - 08 July 2008 21:08
thats interesting john, not much difference in age, but massive difference in sex.
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RE: Men Are More Likely To Commit Suicide ? - 08 July 2008 21:08

Statistics, you say?



JK2 - for the stupid / drunk amongst us could you put describe those graphs in words please
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