Right guys i work long hours in a demanding office job and the best time for me to train will be at 6:30-8 in
the morning i can get up and do this the only prob is that at this time i am unable to eat... will training on
empty have negative effects (catabolic) wise??

I tried eating befor workout but it dosent go down well at this time but as soon as ive finished i get some good
qualiy meat or fish down me with good carbs and then take a massive protein shake to work with oats that will last me till lunch.


I am on cycle and i am cutting so its not as bad as it sounds, well i hope it isnt. I find it very difficult to not put on weight when on cycle anyway im on my forth week of:

Tbol 60mgs ed week 1-4
Eq 500mgs pw
Sus 250mgs pw (frontloaded first 2 weeks)
Not sure how long to stay on 12-16 weeks prob cos of the Eq to get full effects

I also have 20 mins of cardio in the evening, tho probably not doin enough as i have put on 8lbs but this will be water waight from the Tbolm what i stop on monday.

Will this routine be ok?

Blue

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will training on empty have negative effects (catabolic) wise??

Yes.

Neck at least a shake before you train.

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i train at 6.30-8.30 before 9am start at work, weight training and Im ok, I drink a 50gram protein shake 1.5 hours before drink plenty of water, then training, then just eat normally throughout day, its fine, I dont worry too much

Id try and neck a shake/fruit/youghurt before hand, just to fuel you through the workout.

Ive heard that doing heavy weights (CNS intensive stuff) in the hour after you wake up can take some getting used too though.

42.5kg to go.

Bloody hell shef jam you must get up bloody early if you train at 6:30 and manage to have a protein shake
an hour and a half before it

blue_lagoon3000@live.co.uk

The best advice I ever had: "What ever else you do, make sure you Eat and Train correctly" 

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Personally I'd make a shake with summin like:

-whey
-dex
-oats
-milk
-banana

in it.

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Bloody hell shef jam you must get up bloody early if you train at 6:30 and manage to have a protein shake
an hour and a half before it

yer around 4.45, as soon as im up, down a protein shake, and then just drink water, eat an apple also as it digests faster, did have bananas but was told it doesnt digest as fast so apple is better.

also have maltodextrin in protein shake, does me fine, I dont worry too much, then after training, just eat as normal!

Dont overanalysis, it doesnt take long to get use to training at 6.30, trust me, world class weightlifters do similar and train very early

When I am train, I make a bowl of porrige with honey, from half a pint of semi skimmed milk. Loads of energy and some protein too. I also have a very strong latte too, to kick start myself. I found I needed greater rest periods in the morning, but thoroughly enjoyed being in a quiet gym.

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your on gear and you havnt even got your training sorted out or know what to eat before hand? not good fella.

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Personally I'd make a shake with summin like:

-whey
-dex
-oats
-milk
-banana

in it.

same if i trained at that time, alway fuel your workouts

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your on gear and you havnt even got your training sorted out or know what to eat before hand? not good fella.

agree nuts, no point taking anything, if training, diet, rest is wrong

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your on gear and you havnt even got your training sorted out or know what to eat before hand? not good fella.

Last time I checked, the only steriod I'd taken was in my inhalers for my asthma?

Why did you assume I was on gear???

And how do you know what my diet is like, just from reading what I eat at 6 in the morning, before I train????

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Smith machines are for girls mate.

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your on gear and you havnt even got your training sorted out or know what to eat before hand? not good fella.

Last time I checked, the only steriod I'd taken was in my inhalers for my asthma?

Why did you assume I was on gear???

You look pretty hench in your avatar?

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your on gear and you havnt even got your training sorted out or know what to eat before hand? not good fella.

Last time I checked, the only steriod I'd taken was in my inhalers for my asthma?

Why did you assume I was on gear???

You look pretty hench in your avatar?

lol, those aren't pecs, their dogs ears!!

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Smith machines are for girls mate.

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your on gear and you havnt even got your training sorted out or know what to eat before hand? not good fella.

Last time I checked, the only steriod I'd taken was in my inhalers for my asthma?

Why did you assume I was on gear???

And how do you know what my diet is like, just from reading what I eat at 6 in the morning, before I train????

what you on about not on about you! he on about blue_lagoon3000

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Ah cool!

It looked like it was aimed at me, as I was quoted as being replied to...

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Smith machines are for girls mate.

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Ah cool!

It looked like it was aimed at me, as I was quoted as being replied to...

lol no he ov just went on quick reply or somthing

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Ah cool!

It looked like it was aimed at me, as I was quoted as being replied to...

lol no he ov just went on quick reply or somthing

It would have been 'quote'.

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Smith machines are for girls mate.

last time i trained in the morning, i was sick. but everyones diffrent.

new to the game.

Train at 5.35 on sunday afternoons, according to bodybuilding myth you will instantly turn into arnie!
Hope that helps!