I currently do a pretty standard full body routine 3 times a week..

Deadlifts
Squats
Bench Press
Pull Ups
Shoulder or Military Press
Bent Over Row
(then I rotate a few exercises at the end)

I'm wondering, as I'm on a bulk and looking to bulk up, would it do more harm than good if I did cardio for 2 days a week aswell? I feel a bit of a fat bastard scoffing food 4 days a week without doing any exercise, I'm ectomorph and weight is hard to gain, and I am eating 4000cals and I do have about 10-12%bf. So basically, if I do 2 days of HIIT in between 3 days of FB, would I shed bodyfat and still gain muscle or will I just hinder my muscle growth and fail horribly?

U cant be puttin much effort in to ur deadlifts and squats if ur doing them 3 times a wk, takes me a wk to recover.

You have the basis for a 3 day split there. Good selection of exercises, but not on the same day.

Look into 'Push Pull Legs'. There's a routine thread by a chap called Frankie which goes into considerable depth. http://www.muscletalk.co.uk/m_8817/mpage_1/key_/tm.htm#8817

Your lack of weight gain is probably due to your training and possibly your diet, though it' difficult to comment on that without seeing it.

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ORIGINAL: stavross

Smith machines are for girls mate.

thats to much imo. Look into the push/pull/legs as mentioned above

ORIGINAL: Rosc0PColtrane

You have the basis for a 3 day split there. Good selection of exercises, but not on the same day.

Look into 'Push Pull Legs'. There's a routine thread by a chap called Frankie which goes into considerable depth. http://www.muscletalk.co.uk/m_8817/mpage_1/key_/tm.htm#8817

Your lack of weight gain is probably due to your training and possibly your diet, though it' difficult to comment on that without seeing it.

Like the Push pull and Legs May have to Switch to it.

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ORIGINAL: wolverine198324

U cant be puttin much effort in to ur deadlifts and squats if ur doing them 3 times a wk, takes me a wk to recover.

Actually I've added quite a bit of weight to my DL since starting this, I had really bad DOMS and got splitting headaches for a few weeks while my body was adapting, but now I recover fine in 48 hours. The idea of this is to work all my major muscles 3x a week, not to kill every muscle and hit it from every possible angle with a 'more is better' mentality, but to work it.

ORIGINAL: Bawheed

Aye i strongly recommend u give up lifting altogether, before u end up droppin a barbell on yer heeed!

Constructive, first post and you're already a troll, why don't you just leave this forum, it's a great resource without people like you.


Thanks to all the others, I've gained quite nicely since I started this and my lifts are increasingly nicely too, so I'm going to keep doing this for another month or two as it's working, then switch it up a little. The real question was if I should do cardio on days in between, if I was doing the push/pull routine 3 days/week as suggested above, do you feel cardio 2 days in between would be too much?

ORIGINAL: StillBulking

ORIGINAL: wolverine198324

U cant be puttin much effort in to ur deadlifts and squats if ur doing them 3 times a wk, takes me a wk to recover.

Actually I've added quite a bit of weight to my DL since starting this, I had really bad DOMS and got splitting headaches for a few weeks while my body was adapting, but now I recover fine in 48 hours. The idea of this is to work all my major muscles 3x a week, not to kill every muscle and hit it from every possible angle with a 'more is better' mentality, but to work it.

Good for you mate I train the big three 3x a week too!

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