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robbowales Total Posts : 324 Reward points : 474 Joined: 23/05/2008 Status: offline	Reply to message Message Options Weight of the bar? - 13 July 2008 15:22 I was wondering do people include the weight of the bar when they state how much they are lifting? Having used the free bar today i couldn't lift as much as when i was using the smith machine. The weight of the bar is 12.2kg so if i loaded 80kg onto it would that mean im lifting 90.2kg?

Steve902 Total Posts : 687 Reward points : 900 Joined: 28/10/2007 Status: offline	Reply to message Message Options RE: Weight of the bar? - 13 July 2008 15:46 Unless magic space fairies are lifting the bar for you, then yes, you include it.

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RE: Weight of the bar? - 13 July 2008 16:35

For the smith machine. The bars do not normally weigh as much as olympic barbells.
plus smith machines are counter balanced.

also smith machine do vary. some straight up and some angled.

With smith machine, leg press. I count the number of plates I put on. But if I went to a new gym. I would not think as I can put 3*20kg plates on leg press. that at new gym I will get 3*20kg plates on for same number of reps.

Rosc0PColtrane Total Posts : 3387 Reward points : 926 Joined: 15/10/2007 Location: With the good ol' boys, never meanin' no harm Status: offline	Reply to message Message Options RE: Weight of the bar? - 13 July 2008 16:42 You lift it, so you count it. Standard oly bars are 20kgs. "If you're going through hell, keep going!" - Winston Churchill ORIGINAL: stavross Smith machines are for girls mate.

wolverine198324 Total Posts : 439 Reward points : 272 Joined: 03/04/2008 Status: offline	Reply to message Message Options RE: Weight of the bar? - 13 July 2008 16:54 I can lift more on the free bar than the smith machine at my gym. Smith machines do vary tho, sum r more difficult than others.

robbowales Total Posts : 324 Reward points : 474 Joined: 23/05/2008 Status: offline	Reply to message Message Options RE: Weight of the bar? - 13 July 2008 22:07 It actually weighed at 12.2kg, its a slightly smaller bar than an olympic bar. So wolverine198324 you say you can bench 130 for a reps im guessing that includes 110 plus the bar? Just using as an example!

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RE: Weight of the bar? - 13 July 2008 22:23

7' Oly bar = 20kg
5' Oly bar = 12.5kg
EZ bar - 7.5kg

Smith machine = anything from 0-20kg. Unless it's stated on it it anywhere, weights lifted on the Smith Machine are usually just the plates on the bar. For anything using a barbell it's the total amount of weight lifted. So you're correct in the Wolverine example.

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Rosc0PColtrane Total Posts : 3387 Reward points : 926 Joined: 15/10/2007 Location: With the good ol' boys, never meanin' no harm Status: offline	Reply to message Message Options RE: Weight of the bar? - 14 July 2008 10:12 Never knew the weight of the ez bar. Cheer LM!! "If you're going through hell, keep going!" - Winston Churchill ORIGINAL: stavross Smith machines are for girls mate.

wolverine198324 Total Posts : 439 Reward points : 272 Joined: 03/04/2008 Status: offline	Reply to message Message Options RE: Weight of the bar? - 14 July 2008 15:21 can do 130 smith for 8 on incline, 135 for 8 incline on the free bar.

Formerly Known as Old Git Total Posts : 3742 Reward points : 1968 Joined: 14/05/2006 Location: "The Farm" Status: online	Reply to message Message Options RE: Weight of the bar? - 14 July 2008 16:46 ORIGINAL: wolverine198324 can do 130 smith for 8 on incline, 135 for 8 incline on the free bar. Best change your signature then! Feel the fear, and do it anyway! http://www.englishpowerlifting.co.uk/index.html

wolverine198324 Total Posts : 439 Reward points : 272 Joined: 03/04/2008 Status: offline	Reply to message Message Options RE: Weight of the bar? - 14 July 2008 17:19 Ud best stop sniffin guys boxers, ull get a name

cricket_fire Total Posts : 5497 Reward points : 3131 Joined: 09/10/2004 Location: Ontario, Canada Status: offline	Reply to message Message Options RE: Weight of the bar? - 14 July 2008 17:38 I dont understand why it would even occur to someone to not count the bar Strength - Power - Hate Success breeds success