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Wadey

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Failure on a cut - 14 July 2008 11:30
I am just about to start cutting and i am wondering whether I should be training to failure on the cut. I remember reading somewhere that training to failure on a cut is bad. Any info would be greatly appreciated.
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RE: Failure on a cut - 14 July 2008 11:33


ORIGINAL: Wadey

I am just about to start cutting and i am wondering whether I should be training to failure on the cut. I remember reading somewhere that training to failure on a cut is bad. Any info would be greatly appreciated.



Cutting shouldn't alter your weight training regime - train just like you do when bulking.
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RE: Failure on a cut - 14 July 2008 14:42
I would say train just as you would any other time for most part.
But you do need to be sensible.

When you're body is in a calorie deficit, chances are you're gradually going to get a little bit weaker which may potentially leave you more open to injury if you don't train smart or use your instincts.

There are times when you really should listen to your body...even when you're not dieting. You can't expect to be throwing up your maximum lifts week in week out.

Training to failure or using other high intensity techniques are all good in moderation, but it does put quite a bit of stress on your CNS as does lifting heavy.
So when you are dieting, I would still train hard, but you've got to remember your recovery abilities are going to be slightly impaired due to the reduction in calories/food and I believe at this time it is more important to go by how you feel.

Cutting is more about maintaining muscle whilst reducing bodyfat. So although you should still train hard and push yourself, I still think it's best to remember that at this point, the aim isn't Bodybuilding or adding size/strength...but to reduce bodyfat and maintain what you have now.

Personally, I would keep training to failure to a minimum and use sparingly. You basiclly want to stimulate the muscle and maintain strength/size, not aim to build more...because ultimately that's gonna be very difficult on a calorie restricted diet or without the use of AAS.
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RE: Failure on a cut - 14 July 2008 14:54
people lose more muscle size by training differently than to when they were bulking.
accept the numbers might go down a tad but you should train the same
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RE: Failure on a cut - 14 July 2008 20:42
I assume you;re training splits not whole body.

This is a big factor!

It also depends upon your definition of 'failure'
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RE: Failure on a cut - 15 July 2008 11:15
Yer 3 day split. Normally i cant complete the last rep without any help.
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RE: Failure on a cut - 15 July 2008 12:54
Actually contrary to the advice above there may be need to change your way of going about things on a cut but it depends upon the nature of this cut, duration and any 'supplementation'. The justification for this point of view is below but....

Either way on a cut your goal is clear: loose as little muscle mass as possible,

The however setting is often pretty hostile to muscle and recovery is inhibited. Generally due to this I advice increasing intensity and dropping volume a little, you may wish to forget advanced techniques. There is no point completely destroying a muscle if the period of time you leave it to recover isn't enough. Similarly there is also no point doing a huge amount of volume when this is going to add to systemic stress and cut into your whole body ability to recover. By lifting with higher intensity you aim to 'trick' the body into retaining muscle.
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RE: Failure on a cut - 15 July 2008 16:51
Ok thanks for your advice
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