Need some advice. Want to do a 10 week cycle of Xtreme Tren-X. Figuring 60/60/60/90/90/90/90/90/90/90. I have 6 90 cap bottles at 30mg per cap so no worries on running out.

What can I stack with this? Phera Plex Clone? If so what dosage? Anything else I can stack with or no need? I have methyl vol (superdrol clone), original 1-AD and 4-AD and epistane (and M1T - bad idea!). When in the cycle would I stack and at what dosage

Will be taking appropriate support supplements and using toremifene for PCT. I have done a couple of 4 week superdrol cycles at 20/20/30/30 and didn't really experience any sides. Gained about 10lbs post PCT.

Plan to eat 3500-4500 calories per day, at least 250g of protein. Plenty of water, I don't drink alcohol. Currently am 6' 180lbs, lean, 35 yrs old.

Am I mad? Is it too long? Will I die? LOL.

All feedback is appreciated.

i am currently running epi & xtren.

epi weeks 1-8
tren weeks 4-8

in week 2 of xtren and its definatly better than epi alone. no sides still.

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What kind of dose are you running?

keep us updated on your LBM gains

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What kind of dose are you running?

40mg epi

90mg xtren (i'm actually using the clone t-roid)

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Need some advice. Want to do a 10 week cycle of Xtreme Tren-X. Figuring 60/60/60/90/90/90/90/90/90/90. I have 6 90 cap bottles at 30mg per cap so no worries on running out

10 weeks on x-tren would be to long for me tbh, i found it very strong. maybe see how you get on with it and the decide, i would have thought for most 6 weeks on would be enough. great product no doubt in terms of size and strength gains on the flip side made me very hot and feel aggressive but able to control it.

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Thanks for the feedback. I will stack with Epi and see how it goes. If 6 weeks may be long enough then I might start the Tren on week 3 at 90 per day. If I feel good then will continue for 8-10 weeks. Plan on starting the cycle next Saturday. I will update the thread with my progress.

I was surfing the 1fast400 forums and came across a thread discussing the different classes of prohormones:

Class I
Boldenone based phs - 1,4AD & Bold
Trenbolone based phs - Trenadrol & Trenaplex
Testosterone based phs - Methyl 1 Testosterone
Mepitiostane (Thioderon) based phs - Epithio & Clones (Havoc/Epistane/so on so forth)
Desoxymethyltestosterone/DMT (Madol) based phs - pheraplex & clones

Class II
Masteron (Dromostanolone) based phs - Superdrol & Clones
Oral Turinabol (Dehydrochlormethyltestosterone) based phs - Halodrol & Clones
Dianabol (methandrostenolone) based phs - M1,4ADD etc
Winstrol (stanozolol) based phs - Winztrol, Orastan-A, Furaguno, etc
Furazabol (miotolan) based phs - Furazadrol etc
Propadrol
4-AD

The advice was to stack a class I with a class II. Something along the lines of Class I uses androgen receptors, Class II uses other means. The fact that they are not competing for the androgen receptors would give better results.

Therefore a stack of Tren with Epi or Phera would be less effective than say Tren and Superdrol or Halodrol. Most of the Tren stacks I have found people using were with Epi or Phera. What do you guys think? I have 4-AD on hand so could use that with the Tren instead.

Thanks!

ORIGINAL: swfcfan


Testosterone based phs - Methyl 1 Testosterone
...

Class II
4-AD

I though that M1T was not a testo based ph. From the M1T...Information found in this forum, you can read :

"1. What is methyl-1testosterone?

Well, the simple answer is that it is 1-testosterone with a 17aa methylation. To go more in depth, I will explain what 1-testosterone is.

1-testosterone is a bit of a misnomer, in that, it isn’t directly related to testosterone; while they share similar characteristics chemically speaking, 1-testosterone is more closely related to boldenone (equipoise). In fact, 1-testosterone is the 5-alpha reduced version of boldenone..."

4-AD is more likely testo based ph.
JB

ORIGINAL: swfcfan

I was surfing the 1fast400 forums and came across a thread discussing the different classes of prohormones:

Class I
Boldenone based phs - 1,4AD & Bold
Trenbolone based phs - Trenadrol & Trenaplex
Testosterone based phs - Methyl 1 Testosterone
Mepitiostane (Thioderon) based phs - Epithio & Clones (Havoc/Epistane/so on so forth)
Desoxymethyltestosterone/DMT (Madol) based phs - pheraplex & clones

Class II
Masteron (Dromostanolone) based phs - Superdrol & Clones
Oral Turinabol (Dehydrochlormethyltestosterone) based phs - Halodrol & Clones
Dianabol (methandrostenolone) based phs - M1,4ADD etc
Winstrol (stanozolol) based phs - Winztrol, Orastan-A, Furaguno, etc
Furazabol (miotolan) based phs - Furazadrol etc
Propadrol
4-AD

The advice was to stack a class I with a class II. Something along the lines of Class I uses androgen receptors, Class II uses other means. The fact that they are not competing for the androgen receptors would give better results.

Therefore a stack of Tren with Epi or Phera would be less effective than say Tren and Superdrol or Halodrol. Most of the Tren stacks I have found people using were with Epi or Phera. What do you guys think? I have 4-AD on hand so could use that with the Tren instead.

Thanks!

This is a really interesting piece mate - any of the more biochemically minded got opinions on it?

My OTC Steroids first cycle advice article