hi, not been on here for ages, been too busy with other comitments. been off gear a while now. apart from a 5week cutting stack. i was using iranian test e. but i think it was fake as used for 8months solid, with not much in terms of gains. just seemed to maintain what i had alreaddy. and sex drive was same all the way thro, and at end of 8months, so im pretty certain now it was fake. i was running along side hgh, so in guess thats wot helped me maintain my size.

anyhow, to the questions. thinking of running a 5week, heavy course, then having 5weeks off (pct with insulin and hgh)

im planning on running, 250mg sus, 50mg tren, 100mg masteron enanthate(LONG ESTER) everyday! THAT will equal about 2800mg per week.

im way past genetic limit, and ran heavy courses in the past, just not this heavy. antone tried a similar course? anyone got any recomendations or comments? will be good to get a second opinion.

included a picture of me last week

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this year im goin to get alot bigger

Work on your legs lol.

Sorry I'm not an advanced user, but that course seems nuts, especially considering your size.

No offence, you have a great physique.

can i ask why you using long easters?? also why 5 weeks? what about extending it to 10/12 weeks and doind eod jabs?

ive never done a cycle that packed in before. i have read an article on someone doing 4 weeks sus ed and he seemed to love it.

i have no idea how that would go,

prob give me some serious blood pressure problems

but id still do it.

let us know how it goes,

id expect some impressive reults.


is that your pic after being "off" for a long time? impressive

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IMO i would up the test to 1g PW being sus or eth,cpy and some deca and an oral or T3, for 8-10weeks and then GH/slin for 8-10weeks.
But the only way you will know is to try your own way frist.
Have you had any blood work done?
As you have said you are adavanced are you at your best and is that bit more just over the top?
Daz

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ORIGINAL: jibbstaylor

hi, not been on here for ages, been too busy with other comitments. been off gear a while now. apart from a 5week cutting stack. i was using iranian test e. but i think it was fake as used for 8months solid, with not much in terms of gains. just seemed to maintain what i had alreaddy. and sex drive was same all the way thro, and at end of 8months, so im pretty certain now it was fake. i was running along side hgh, so in guess thats wot helped me maintain my size.

anyhow, to the questions. thinking of running a 5week, heavy course, then having 5weeks off (pct with insulin and hgh)

im planning on running, 250mg sus, 50mg tren, 100mg masteron enanthate(LONG ESTER) everyday! THAT will equal about 2800mg per week.

im way past genetic limit, and ran heavy courses in the past, just not this heavy. antone tried a similar course? anyone got any recomendations or comments? will be good to get a second opinion.

included a picture of me last week

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Nice to see you posting again mate

Impressive pic - well done

Don't know anyone that has ran the above..

I know something though - as Dig suggested I would

keep a close eye on BP.. but all being well you should grow like a weed

from that IMO

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Looking good in the pic!

I was talking to a friend who did something like this and he said that the sides he got were really bad, blood pressure etc....
I'd like to try it my self but I think I'd go for short esters if only running for 5 weeks

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ive run tren ace and tv everyday once , did it for about 3 weeks and stoped made me too bloddy tired all the time , would be ok if you can just train and sleep all day .

any questions happy to assist training/nutrition/gear !

juicemonster@hotmail.co.uk

ORIGINAL: bigguns99

can i ask why you using long easters?? also why 5 weeks? what about extending it to 10/12 weeks and doind eod jabs?

ive never done a cycle that packed in before. i have read an article on someone doing 4 weeks sus ed and he seemed to love it.

was guna use long ester because there is more mg/ml. but thinking bout it, thats a silly idea. i will stick with diprop mastabol, as mg are high anyway.

p.s. you from oldham? got a mate who knows you, andy roper?

this year im goin to get alot bigger

ORIGINAL: susthead

ive run tren ace and tv everyday once , did it for about 3 weeks and stoped made me too bloddy tired all the time , would be ok if you can just train and sleep all day .

does tren tend to makle you tired then?

this year im goin to get alot bigger

ORIGINAL: forddee

IMO i would up the test to 1g PW being sus or eth,cpy and some deca and an oral or T3, for 8-10weeks and then GH/slin for 8-10weeks.
But the only way you will know is to try your own way frist.
Have you had any blood work done?
As you have said you are adavanced are you at your best and is that bit more just over the top?
Daz

had blood work done after last course, bout 6months ago. everything was fine, and only done the cutting course since then, so im pretty certain everythings still fine.

this year im goin to get alot bigger

ORIGINAL: jibbstaylor

ORIGINAL: bigguns99

can i ask why you using long easters?? also why 5 weeks? what about extending it to 10/12 weeks and doind eod jabs?

ive never done a cycle that packed in before. i have read an article on someone doing 4 weeks sus ed and he seemed to love it.

was guna use long ester because there is more mg/ml. but thinking bout it, thats a silly idea. i will stick with diprop mastabol, as mg are high anyway.

p.s. you from oldham? got a mate who knows you, andy roper?

200mg prop, 50mg tren ace, 75mg masteron ed IMO mate.

Short esters for a short course is better suited. Maybe even think of swapping the masteron for NPP.

that would give you 1400mg test (although comparin to enanthate/cyp that would be more like 1550mg due to shorter ester = more test per mg), 350mg tren and 525mg masteron. Higher doses of masteron don't do too much so around 500mg is plenty IMO, you don't need huge amounts of tren plus careful with high tren and BP. 1400mg for someone of your use and experience is not massive amounts of test, especially if you've been off a bit and only doing 5 weeks on. I think that should make a nice course, just make sure you nail your diet, lots of clean foods, LOTS and you'll grow.

mcl

ORIGINAL: jibbstaylor

hi, not been on here for ages, been too busy with other comitments. been off gear a while now. apart from a 5week cutting stack. i was using iranian test e. but i think it was fake as used for 8months solid, with not much in terms of gains. just seemed to maintain what i had alreaddy. and sex drive was same all the way thro, and at end of 8months, so im pretty certain now it was fake. i was running along side hgh, so in guess thats wot helped me maintain my size.

anyhow, to the questions. thinking of running a 5week, heavy course, then having 5weeks off (pct with insulin and hgh)

im planning on running, 250mg sus, 50mg tren, 100mg masteron enanthate(LONG ESTER) everyday! THAT will equal about 2800mg per week.

im way past genetic limit, and ran heavy courses in the past, just not this heavy. antone tried a similar course? anyone got any recomendations or comments? will be good to get a second opinion.

included a picture of me last week

[image][/image]


[image]local://upfiles/24673/08601245D1BA49D9882DB9D530A61FB2.jpg[/image]

Hi!
Cycle looks good! Done something similar in the past (500mg Sust EOD, 75mg Tren EOD) one of my fav combo!

Hows the gyno since you had it removed? Do you run any nolv/adex etc with cycles now or are you ok without them?

Impressive pic, very lean.

that cycle looks good to me tbh ,its basically a very moderate version of a paul borresson type shic .

its not that different to something i want to try soon so if you do mate let me know how it goes please!

i would personally make sure to add some adex and nolva in there .and as said keep a check on blood pressure

personally id leave the long esters in there and taper off with some prop and winny at a high dose

how high have your doses been so far mate ?

i used to have a handle on life but it broke

no it dont i just think the shear high dose of juice i was using was making me tired ,

im ok on 1ml sust 1ml tren eod which is ample really mate ,

ORIGINAL: jibbstaylor

ORIGINAL: susthead

ive run tren ace and tv everyday once , did it for about 3 weeks and stoped made me too bloddy tired all the time , would be ok if you can just train and sleep all day .

does tren tend to makle you tired then?

any questions happy to assist training/nutrition/gear !

juicemonster@hotmail.co.uk

ORIGINAL: jibbstaylor

ORIGINAL: susthead

ive run tren ace and tv everyday once , did it for about 3 weeks and stoped made me too bloddy tired all the time , would be ok if you can just train and sleep all day .

does tren tend to makle you tired then?

lethargic,and out of breath for sure with me.

now than mate, nice to see you posting!

looking good in the photo!

the cycle MCL posted is a better version of yours.

will be a nice cycle!

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Not an experienced user, but as other have suggested I think short esters would be better suited to a short course, with the longer esters you may only start to feel the benefits of the cycle in week 3-4 and then you come off in week 5. With shorter gains will come sooner, and once you take into account ester weights, prop/ace etc being less than cyp/enanthate then the mg/ml isn't too different.

ORIGINAL: Craig W

Hows the gyno since you had it removed? Do you run any nolv/adex etc with cycles now or are you ok without them?

Impressive pic, very lean.

gyno isnt an issue anymore, since had glands removed not had any problems at all

this year im goin to get alot bigger