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RE: Building a Better Plug.. pt 2..ish - Jun. 23 2005 8:58:00
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ahh the joys, alright lads lets just leave it at that thenI dot really want this journal to become a should I be using gear debate, or even an out and out argumnet, Polythemus thanks for the input, Pagan cheers for the support.
Polythemus your more than welcome to keep posting in this but not about this particular argument please.
Cheers Boys.
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RE: Building a Better Plug.. pt 2..ish - Jun. 23 2005 10:00:22
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Plug1 sorry about that mate I had just finished a rather stressful shift and I was also a bit drunk 
What are your long term goals strength wise ? I cant see me getting much further than a 140kg bench.
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RE: Building a Better Plug.. pt 2..ish - Jun. 23 2005 14:02:57
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S'cool mate, well the goal was 140kg, hoping to do 145 next week. But my aim is to still be benching 135kg after Im totally off of this cycle so we'll see how that goes. Im off to egypt in 5 weeks so that could fukc it up a bit.
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RE: Building a Better Plug.. pt 2..ish - Jun. 23 2005 18:42:39
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Back and bi' stoday. The lack of air con in the gym is seriously affecting my training at the moment, defo no cardio even tho there is air con up there.. Im too fikced to do it after a session.
Dead's - 8*60kg, 8*100kg, 4*150kg, 5*180kg(strapped)
rows - 8*40kg, 8*80kg, 7*85kg, 5*90kg
behind neck pull downs - 8*85kg, 6*100kg, 5*100kg, 4*100kg
infront "" - 4 sets of 80kg 8 reps
Hammer Curls - 4 sets of 6 at 27.5kg
that was that, done and well and truly dusted
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RE: Building a Better Plug.. pt 2..ish - Jun. 23 2005 19:07:24
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180x5 is quite a good deadlift mate. How strict are the hammer curls? I presume you'r eon about dumbbells weighing 27.5kg each are you?
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RE: Building a Better Plug.. pt 2..ish - Jun. 23 2005 19:29:26
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That sright mate 27.5 each Id say Im pretty strict on them but I would say that wouldnt I. Im certainly not struggling with them and leaning back to throw them up.
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RE: Building a Better Plug.. pt 2..ish - Jun. 24 2005 11:51:07
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140kg is an excellent lift - gear or no gear. So what if some guys do it naturally. You dont compete so your not exactly cheating!!!
Think there's a 150 in the tank during this cycle mate? I'm sure there would be if you went for it at the start of one of your sessions 
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RE: Building a Better Plug.. pt 2..ish - Jun. 24 2005 11:58:00
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Heres hoping mate, Im game for it anyway. 145 is getting hit up next week defo, I always do my beching first and skip up the weight with single reps if Im going for a PB. Im looking forward to it already.
Legs or shoulders today dunno which, I'll wait and see how I feel.
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RE: Building a Better Plug.. pt 2..ish - Jun. 24 2005 12:35:26
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140kg is an excellent lift - gear or no gear. So what if some guys do it naturally. You dont compete so your not exactly cheating!!!
For some reason I reckon 140+kg is a good bench for a natural and 180+kg is a good bench for a gear-boy. This is based on my observations of various people I have known who either use or don't. Neither is very easy to achieve and should take a good few years to get to. That's what I reckon anyway.
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RE: Building a Better Plug.. pt 2..ish - Jun. 24 2005 13:03:21
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When we say bench are we talking full rom for one rep...140k is some awsome weight lifting natural
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RE: Building a Better Plug.. pt 2..ish - Jun. 24 2005 14:36:59
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aye Stef flat bench, 1 rep full range of movement, i.e from touching your chest to your arms locked out above you.
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RE: Building a Better Plug.. pt 2..ish - Jun. 24 2005 14:39:07
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Will that be with a pause plug1?
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RE: Building a Better Plug.. pt 2..ish - Jun. 24 2005 16:47:41
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Yep, He rested it on his chect for 5 mins before pushing it back up.. He's not a powerlifter so what does it matter!
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RE: Building a Better Plug.. pt 2..ish - Jun. 24 2005 17:12:36
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Yep, He rested it on his chect for 5 mins before pushing it back up.. He's not a powerlifter so what does it matter!
There's no need to be rude!  I was asking a perfectly reasonable question.
Plug1: I also wanted to ask if you've got any decent spotters at your gym, or do you sometimes end up with someone helping you when you could actually have got the lift on your own? I get really upset when (very rarely) that happens to me. 
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RE: Building a Better Plug.. pt 2..ish - Jun. 24 2005 19:38:15
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Tom our gym is like a wee community, every ones sound, anyone whos spoting always asks when you want help. I wont even have help on the lift off as my view is if I cant lift it off Im not even trying it. but yes sometimes if Im in early you get the odd new guy who grabs the bar as soon as you break a sweat and that pi55es me off BIG time, total waste of a lift imo. With regards to the pause I would say no, no pause at all, lower it to my chest and then power it back up ASAP. Its not a comp, Im only interested in how much weight is travellign vertically.
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RE: Building a Better Plug.. pt 2..ish - Jun. 24 2005 23:17:10
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That's cool. Thanks for the answer.  Good luck with 145 next week.
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RE: Building a Better Plug.. pt 2..ish - Jun. 24 2005 23:30:23
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cheers, Im ready.
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RE: Building a Better Plug.. pt 2..ish - Jun. 25 2005 22:21:06
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quote:
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140kg is an excellent lift - gear or no gear. So what if some guys do it naturally. You dont compete so your not exactly cheating!!!
For some reason I reckon 140+kg is a good bench for a natural and 180+kg is a good bench for a gear-boy. This is based on my observations of various people I have known who either use or don't. Neither is very easy to achieve and should take a good few years to get to. That's what I reckon anyway.
That's a little unrealistic TBH mate.
Almost no one benches over 180kg. We're talking maybe 1% of all people who train with weights press over 180kg.
I've seen it done, but it's rare.
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RE: Building a Better Plug.. pt 2..ish - Jun. 26 2005 10:17:44
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Ive never seen it done, I do know 1 guy in the gym who can do it bu tI havent seen him do it as he usually does 150 for reps. Hes natural as well, used to compete in the highland games apparently but hes getting on a bit now.
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RE: Building a Better Plug.. pt 2..ish - Jun. 26 2005 19:58:57
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that isn't meant as a pop at you plug , you keep up the good work .
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