hello all.

pretty much decided to do a dbol only cycle.

can anyone wither answer these, or post a link to an FAQ or whatever.



1. how much hair loss is expected if im using a light dose?

2. my blood pressure now is about 130/80....i realise this is high but i reckon its cos im quitting smoking....is this likely to cause problems, either long or short term?

3. graprefruit juice, milk thistle...what else?

4. what do you recommend for pct?



i know these are amateurish questions and wont be offended if anyone tells me to get back in my box before recommending a link or book or whatever.

cheers

soap

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1 DEPENDS ON PERSON
2 as you have stopped smoking i wouldnt worry too much , just stay off the fags
3 Milk thistle @ 1000 mg/day drink lots of water too .
4 for a 6 week d/bol course
PCT
nolva 60 / 1 day 40 for 10 days , then 20 for 10 days

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ORIGINAL: soapdodger

hello all.

pretty much decided to do a dbol only cycle.

can anyone wither answer these, or post a link to an FAQ or whatever.



1. how much hair loss is expected if im using a light dose?

2. my blood pressure now is about 130/80....i realise this is high but i reckon its cos im quitting smoking....is this likely to cause problems, either long or short term?

3. graprefruit juice, milk thistle...what else?

4. what do you recommend for pct?



i know these are amateurish questions and wont be offended if anyone tells me to get back in my box before recommending a link or book or whatever.

cheers

soap

your first 2 questions will be very hard to predict its a very indivdual thing you might not suffer or you may suffer

i would use milkthistle and NAC forget the grapjuice but have it if you want to not important imo

pct nolva/clomid standard doses from the articals section

why dbol only mate ?

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a couple of reasons for dbol only, none of which are really good enough on their own, but together they pretty much have me convinced

1. issues with needles (i can see you all shaking your heads from here)

2. money - one sup has to be cheaper than three (eg surely sus-deca-dbol would cost more???)

3. routine - if i end up working the hours i was (before i lost the plot), it makes my life a lot easier if i'm on something oral, for obvious reasons

cheers

'soapdodger can never die; only the actors that play him'

need a laugh? see soap's 'progress' at
http://www.picturetrail.com/fmb

ORIGINAL: soapdodger

a couple of reasons for dbol only, none of which are really good enough on their own, but together they pretty much have me convinced

1. issues with needles (i can see you all shaking your heads from here)

2. money - one sup has to be cheaper than three (eg surely sus-deca-dbol would cost more???)

3. routine - if i end up working the hours i was (before i lost the plot), it makes my life a lot easier if i'm on something oral, for obvious reasons

cheers

1. if you're not ready for needles, you're not ready for anabolics

2. price discussion is not allowed, so i can't mention any figure, but 20 amps of test will cost about the same (if not very slightly more) than 200 dbol tabs, and well worth the extra few quid

3. bro, injections will take literally 10-15 mins to set up and perform, and you'd be doing them every 3rd/4th day, dbol tabs should be taken every 2-3 hours throughout the day, are you trying to say taking a pill 5 times ED is more conveinient than taking a shot twice a week? i think not!

mate im not going to argue with you, cos youre obviously set in your beliefs, but im not just being a pussy about needles. the only other phobia i have is snakes, and when either a snake or a needle is within about five feet of me *i swear* im close to blacking out. when i had to give a blood sample last year, i had to not only look the other way but i kept pulling my arm away; i was sick when i left the clinic...if you have any phobias, try to get over your preconceptions and accept that its somehting i would probably need therapy to be able to do.

as for not being ready, i think six months of no progress after two years of working my ass off says something needs to change.....im not gonna pretend i got to the level where i could compete, but im not gonna spend a year going from a 180 squat to a 190 either.

soap

'soapdodger can never die; only the actors that play him'

need a laugh? see soap's 'progress' at
http://www.picturetrail.com/fmb

1. if you're not ready for needles, you're not ready for anabolics

..A bit Harsh .
Oral only cycles are a good start really , yes injectables are superior in that you get more stable blood levels .
But many people have done well on d/ball only cycles , remembering that a fair amount of your `gains` will be water so you will APPEAR to lose more mass post cycle than you would from an injectable course of say, enth and equi .
But you will hold onto new muscle mass by executing a correct PCT and keeping diet and training strict .
Having got used to training on gear I can almost guarantee that you will be on an injectable cycle next time

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if you're not ready for needles, you're not ready for anabolics

- bullshi!


don't worry about it soap, dbol only IS NOT a bad cycle at all, and in fact I personally think its quite a sensible first cycle.
Eat and train well and get your rest and you should walk away with a fair few lbs!

much appreciated. cheers

'soapdodger can never die; only the actors that play him'

need a laugh? see soap's 'progress' at
http://www.picturetrail.com/fmb

So many people I know (both in person and on the net) have real problems with a D-Bol only cycle. If you ever bring it up in front of them, or even HINT that you're thinking about doing a D-Bol only cycle, they immediately assume you have absolutely NO idea what you're doing, and are only doing it because "Arnold did it", or because it's supposedly "easy". Since when was taking 3-5 tablets a day easier than injecting yourself once a week?

I've never done a D-Bol only cycle, but this is because I've always been given the impression that you gain more water than muscle, and once done, you'll shrink back to your original size, regardless of PCT and nutrition. I can't imagine there is any truth to this, though, otherwise it wouldn't be so popular!

DP.

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It's a myth that d-bol gains aren't keepable. They're as keepable as gains from any other steroid.

The problem lies with what people perceive as "gains". I hear things like "I'm 3 weeks in and 'gained' 12lbs" - when in reality they've gained maybe 3 or 4 lbs and are holding 8lb in water.

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ORIGINAL: soapdodger

a couple of reasons for dbol only, none of which are really good enough on their own, but together they pretty much have me convinced

1. issues with needles (i can see you all shaking your heads from here)

2. money - one sup has to be cheaper than three (eg surely sus-deca-dbol would cost more???)

3. routine - if i end up working the hours i was (before i lost the plot), it makes my life a lot easier if i'm on something oral, for obvious reasons

cheers

1. if you're not ready for needles, you're not ready for anabolics

If I had 1lb of muscle for everytime I heard that i would be mr Olympia lol!

Howdy..

I have just started a 40mg a day DBol only cycle.. (My first ever course)

Its only my second day in and reading this page i have a few questions...

I have not had any blood pressure checks prior.. how important is this?

I have purchased some milk thistle tablets.. how much per day.. ( i had been told not to take them till after)

I plan on doing a 6 day week for 6 weeks... Is there anything else i need to be looking at apart from eating like a horse and drinking like a camal.. :oP

Lastly.. the tabs i have a blue and heart shaped? strange?

take it every day not 6 days a week dbol's half life is like 4 hours don't do this stupid mistake

i am taking 2 in the morning and 2 late afternoon..

as its life is only 4 hours would you time it before going to the gym also? Maybe 4 seperate times during the day.. maybe when i have my shakes? Would you take the milk thistle at the same time?

Use 30mg a day break this up through out the day, also dough it up in some bread so it's not that harsh on your tummy hehe :) if like me you have to take them when at work and nowhere near a meal! you can pre rap them at home and store them in a meds container. also take some liver support!!

do 30mg for 6 weeks then use some PCT (see other posts) start during the last week of your course or before if you get any problems like sore nips etc... Eat clean and drink plenty of water, you will grow man no worries there!! also take a creatine sup and plenty of BCAA and pro-shakes! please don't make the mistake that more is better it's not!! train hard and stay focused!!

O and squat like your life depended on it!! great gains!!

this was 2005 mate... i think he'll have done at least 5 or 6 courses by now and at least know some stuff...

Cant help but laugh at this one lol

haha wayy to dig up an old post, laughable some of the replies to this though

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o so it was 2005 and my advice was still good :) lol