Ive run two Superdrol cycles so far, the first I ran a nolva-only PCT using the usual 21-day 60/40/20 doses and recovered well keeping 7lbs. However the second cycle I decided to run the nolva for only a week and use primarily Rebound XT for 4 weeks for PCT. Problem is, recovery was terrible and a few weeks after PCT I began to get gyno. Now this was not just a little itch, it was full blown lumps in both nipples and after 10 days of nolva at 40mg the lumps are finally shrinking and the itchiness/pain has stopped.

Needless to say I was completely stumped, especially after reading about how well others recovered on Rebound XT-only PCTs. That was until I saw the following thread:

http://anabolicminds.com/forum/post-cycle-therapy/37508-delayed-gyno-sd-pp-like.html

It seems that this is actually quite common, but unusually I havent seen any reports of it here. Many of these people have had the delayed onset of gyno 1-4 months after using primarily Rebound XT (or any ATD) for PCT. The first thing that springs to mind is Estrogen rebound, however myself like many people there correctly tapered the ATD to try to avoid this. Now I already know I am extremely prone to gyno (I got itchy nipples in under a week on BOTH superdrol cycles I did), but it seems this is quite a common thing.

Has anyone here experienced a similar thing?

Thank f*ck you had Nolva on hand bro!!!
In my view, anybody running an SD cycle should have Nolva on Hand just in case of Gyno.
Rebound xt would not IMO have helped you fight gyno once lumps were forming.
Gyno isn't very common on SD, dependant on dosage and Rebound does work for most, but you just never know about that estrogen build up.
Hope it all clears for ya bro!!

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Do you have existing gyno or found yourself prone to gyno from your previous SD cycle? How long off did you take between cycles of SD? How many weeks after PCT did your gyno begin to develop?

I sincerely do not think it is rebound or ATD in general causing the problem. While it has residual effects when you come off it, i'm guessing they last a couple of days before your body regains homeostasis.

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Do you have existing gyno or found yourself prone to gyno from your previous SD cycle? How long off did you take between cycles of SD? How many weeks after PCT did your gyno begin to develop?

I sincerely do not think it is rebound or ATD in general causing the problem. While it has residual effects when you come off it, i'm guessing they last a couple of days before your body regains homeostasis.

Yes, a little gyno prone is an understatement in my case. On both of my Superdrol cycles I got itchy nipples within a week. For my Rebound XT PCT I used the standard 75/50/50/25 taper and the itchiness started around 3 weeks after. What suprised me the most was that only a few days after the itching began I noticed the lumps in both nipples, something Im 100% certain werent there before. I have nolva on hand at all times, so when I feel symptoms I start it immediately, but this time it came on so quickly that by the time I got the first 60mg of nolva down, it was already extremely bad.

My first cycle was 19 days long and I ran my second cycle 5½ weeks later. I do think I should have waited longer as the gains didnt really come in week 1 and 2 on this cycle. The majority were in week 3, but sadly most of these were lost as Rebound didnt really help me to recover as well as nolva-only did the first time.

why didn't you run Xt or the likes along with the Sd cycle, this might of helped !!

Hey lookin for some help i did a cycle of epistane in 4 weeks an followed it up with a pct(tamox) an had a estrogen rebound shortly after badly got sore nips,an build up behind the nipple so then i took some anastrosal but i had droped the bottle an spilled half the bottle.I took what was left an i got rid of it the sore ness but still have half the build up behind the nipple.What sould i take to finsh of the gyno?

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Hey lookin for some help i did a cycle of epistane in 4 weeks an followed it up with a pct(tamox) an had a estrogen rebound shortly after badly got sore nips,an build up behind the nipple so then i took some anastrosal but i had droped the bottle an spilled half the bottle.I took what was left an i got rid of it the sore ness but still have half the build up behind the nipple.What sould i take to finsh of the gyno?

good chance that nolva actually caused your gynecomastia, via upregulation of the PgR. its suspected that epistane, like superdrol, is also a progestin. Though again as with superdrol 3betahsd may play a role (which tamox increases)

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ORIGINAL: boney

Hey lookin for some help i did a cycle of epistane in 4 weeks an followed it up with a pct(tamox) an had a estrogen rebound shortly after badly got sore nips,an build up behind the nipple so then i took some anastrosal but i had droped the bottle an spilled half the bottle.I took what was left an i got rid of it the sore ness but still have half the build up behind the nipple.What sould i take to finsh of the gyno?

good chance that nolva actually caused your gynecomastia, via upregulation of the PgR. its suspected that epistane, like superdrol, is also a progestin. Though again as with superdrol 3betahsd may play a role (which tamox increases)

i have tamoxifen for pct of my upcoming epi cycle.

i already have pre-existing (pubescent) gyno so i fear i may be suseptable, would the above suggest i should instead use clomid for my pct?

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macro is there eneything i can to take care of the rest of the build up behind the nipp an the puffyness like take letro an if i do take the letro do i have to take eneything when i come off the letro?

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macro is there eneything i can to take care of the rest of the build up behind the nipp an the puffyness like take letro an if i do take the letro do i have to take eneything when i come off the letro?

you can use letrozole, though reccomend following with aromasin or AIFM.

generally reccomend cabaser in addition where there is puffyness and especially if there is any ductal threading.

if you have local fat deposits as well then yohimburn es would be a good addition, to enhance fat loss (calorie deficit essential for results here).

ALWAYS reccomend CALORIE DEFICIT when treating gynecomastia, since insulin and associated growth factors (igf) are agonists of breast tissue and can sustain it. avoiding insulin spikes is reccomended as well, so avoid high fructose corn syrup, limit sucrose, limit saturated fats, increase polyunsaturated fats (fish oil), avoid hydrogenated oils like the plague (this means most fried food as well).

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macro is there eneything i can to take care of the rest of the build up behind the nipp an the puffyness like take letro an if i do take the letro do i have to take eneything when i come off the letro?

always reccomend clomid for PCT. reccomend against nolva for PCT when progestins are used and most designer steroids (many of which are progestins or have progestenic metabolites).

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awsome thanks so uch for your help one last question whats the dosage i sould take with the letro an aromasin? ive seen this dosage reccomded
2.
Day 1: .50mg Letro
Day 2: 1.0mg Letro
Day 3: 1.5mg Letro
Day 4: 2.0mg Letro
Day 5: 2.5mg Letro
is this the correct dosage it talks about coming down slowly off the letro
an how much aromasin dosage sould i use?
thanks again for all you help