mass 58 on its way :)

Oh mate!! that's terrible. (lol)
 
I'm out of work at the moment, which is crap because i'm skint but good because i can sleep a lot more and train in the afternoon at a free gym :)

One week in.
 
Arms and shoulders look bigger and i think my weight is up. I'm 15 stone now but not sure about my start weight as i don't have scales at home.
 
Seems good so far although the last few days i've been ill with a stomach bug and can't keep any food down which isn't helping. hopefully will clear in the next day or two and i can get back to it properly.

Sounds good minus the poor health - it always bloody happens when you least want it.... why not the other week eh? LOL
 
Hope it continues to give you desired results...
I found that even on the days I didnt eat big, I continued to maintain and define my muscles rather than build them. So dont overly stress about the diet at this stage.... worry at Day 15 LOL

Some ways could be worse and you go down in PCT and lose everything having gained a load.

Yeah, sick on pct is really crap. feeling better now but cant get to the gym today. will be back in there tomorrow and have been eating more now.

Ok... 17 days in and this stuff is the sh1t!!
 
I'm looking much fuller all over, feeling great in the gym, my t-shirts are all tighter around the shoulders and back actually look like a lifter again which is nice.
 
Don't think i've added any fat either, i don't have bf measuring kit so can't say 100% but my mid section looks the same or possibly a little tighter.
 
I remember doing ALRI ergomax lmg years ago and i had this amazing pumped feeling, especially in my shoulders, all day and i've got that going on now too which is a really nice feeling. Can't wait to see what the next 16 days has for me.
 
I changed my mind again about the injectable i'm going to get and have ordered some NPP and some test propionate which i'll start on monday for six weeks.

Good to hear mate!

Keep us informed!

Skinnypete how did this cycle go in the end put much size on

how did it turn out? 
i got 2 stone on then kept 1.5 even after a bowt of gastro flu.
good product.

You kept 21 lbs... not bad eh?

Liebow


You kept 21 lbs... not bad eh?

 
if thats how you define not bad then excellent would scare the **** out of me

wow, 21 lbs is crazy..
how lean were your gains? did you gain alot of bf on the cycle?
im wondering if it would be dumb to run this ph during summer, because of the wetness...or if the sd is dry enough to keep you from looking bloated.
man i like to look big for summer, but also dry and vascular...i guess we cant have it all....
 

project


how did it turn out? 
i got 2 stone on then kept 1.5 even after a bowt of gastro flu.
good product.

21lbs is pretty impressive - would you value this as quality weight gain though?

lost

Liebow


You kept 21 lbs... not bad eh?

if thats how you define not bad then excellent would scare the **** out of me

 
Well it isnt bad is it, considering I made a stone in gains on the stuff. This is liberties, keeping bloody 20 odd lbs! LOL jealous see

Thats more then most test, dbol, tren cycles must have a lot of unwanted fat?
Project are you skinnypete - have I missed something here?
 
I have opted to use mass 58 to kick start my test e cycle instead of dbol hoping it will be better.
I am just getting every thing I need for it now ready for april.
 
Liebow/Dragon how do you think I should dose 2 caps or 3 per day, would I see good results on just 2 caps ed
I am running adex e3d at 1mg hoping this will lower my water bloat and I suffer with the old sore nips.

i had good gains on 2 per day,6 lbs in 3 weeks,which i was happy with at 17 stone.
 
upped it to 3 and found the lethargy hard to deal with so went back down.
 
my advice is to try 2 and up it if you feel like,you can always go back down.
 
dont forget 2 caps is 20 mg ergo,80 mg max lmg,which on its own is enough.
 
add in 16mg of sd and thats a pretty hefty amount per day in total.

Like Dragon said, I reckon go with 2 caps ed.
I personally went with 3 caps and made impressive gains. Then again I dont know if 2 caps would do much for me. Heavy see. But I think 2 would be fine, esspecially to kickstart Test E.

Cheers guys.

sorry guys for the long delay didnt wanna hijack petes post but yeah i managed to pile on the poundage with this. strength and mass gains all round. 
id say the gains overall were 75% muscle and 25% fat. i dropped half a stone though after i got gastric flu but even then ive kept the strength gains.
 
im wondering how pete got on because this is the sort of way my first cycle was on sust/deca and dbol about six years ago. 
first cycle after time off has always been a boom for me. 

This is what Ive been saying since last summer.... this Mass-58 could be a break-through PH that is on par with an injectible cycle - in a third of the time. What other oral slaps on over a stone of weight where the vast majority of it is keepable mass? In 30 days? Dianabol.... ok, thats 4-6 weeks @ 40mg ed, and Ive only kept 7lbs of mass after PCT when I first tried it. 6 weeks to keep around 7 lbs (if all is well), or 4 weeks to keep atleast 10 lbs (and I mean ATLEAST)...
 
Mass-58 is the way forward I think, I keep thinking about it...