not impressed personally

here are some before and after pics of my test e 500mg pw 10 week cycle:
 
after
 

 

 
before
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people say i look more defined and have lost fat % but im not to sure, i do see myself everyday.
 
what do you lot think, i took my last shot today so still havent started pct or lost any water weight if i have any.....
 

Yeah I wasn't that impressed with my 12 week test e cycle at the same dose, same kind of comments, look a bit more defined and strength went up slightly. I think that test e only works well if you stay on for like years, I'm going to add tren and winstrol for my next cycle. However it is worth mentioning its a marathon in terms of muscle building not a sprint. If you can add 5-6 pounds of muscle twice a year for 4-5 years with roids then the  end result will be good!!

That is true and my strength and focus is through the roof, its jus I pulled out all the stops, diet sorted, poured my guts out in cardiovascular, lost my social life. Lol. Work train and sleep, so it puts the doubt in my head that I could've done this clean and the thought of taking test worked like a placebo for strengths.

The thing is got pulled over by a few of my mates that said I looked mote defined and they have said that i should do a bar and prove cycle in 5 weeks time to shred up for holidays.........

Did u get any sides from the test? I got some heart palps which I've put down to stress and adrenaline issues

No sides really, got a bit moody and very small amount of spots on the shoulders, but i was going through some personal issues(ex) during this cycle so that could have been the cause of mood swings!!lol. New nickname is the hulk at work.....

lol on the nickname...... I got bored around week 4-5 and started upping the dose to a gram and then on week 7, I went on holiday with some mates and got pissed everyday for like 7 days straight. Thats when the heart palps started, over stressed my cns I think. Backed down the dose to 500 and no alcohol but took till week 10 to settle back down. Going to be more disciplined next time, guess theres only so much the body can take. Still reckon mind the only way to get massive results from a test cycle would be to go on it for like a year or something. I didn't get shut down at all over the 12 week period but still ran a decent pct.

Sorry but i cannot see a difference, something is obviously  wrong.

I was using a lab that had mixed reviews, so i don't know......BAD TIMES.

crap diet, or duff gear.

dementia


Sorry but i cannot see a difference, something is obviously  wrong.

With what?? My heart fluttering??

I've talked to a lot of experienced steroid users in person and dealers and a lot of em say you will be probably disappointed in a test e only cycle in terms of results but you should do it to see how you react. I used pharma Iranian stuff. 

if you are using 500mg test you can tell if its real or not, from sex drive, greasy skin, acne etc 
 
What were your goals for the cycle mate ? were you bulking or cutting and how many calories were you eating in a day ? 

3500 to 4000 cals trying to lean bulk , doing a 3 day spit over 5 days to hit everything 4 times a week,was this ****...   (30 p 50 c 20 f)
 

Looking forward to tren e as think its going to be the real deal......
 
(and there was nothing wrong with the gear as have decent sources, for some reason didn't really happen, I did have injury's galore) 

i know there are fakes of that stuff knocking about and have been for a long time
im not expert on spotting them either
 
at a gram a week you would be like a dog with 2 di(ks mate 
surely you would tell if it was fake or not 
 
i dont gain well on low doses but certainly can tell im on test from the effect on sex drive 

true but got bloated after about week 3 and had to ue armimedex and then started to get heart palps, if not real why would of this happen (I also got slight euphoria and then anxiety) people I buy from use it them selves. Test on its own isnt that strong from my own experience in muscle gain. Next cycle 750 test, 400 tren e, winstrol at end. Think theres going to be a big difference if can take the sides
 
edit - do you think different ?? Can u get these sides from fake gear?

If you was doing too much cv that would use the cals you need to grow mate, you need to bear that in mind, excess calls will result in you gaining weight in muscle and a littl fat on the right diet/ training/ steroid cycle.

Test-e is an amazing first cycle if you do your research and get all the factors correct from the start!

My mate first cycle (test @ 400 mg pw) has gained 1 stone in 6 weeks no doubt some of that is water but I know his diet is nailed and his training is good.

Minger

Poor diet or poor training

i kinda expected these comments but from experience i dont feel the effect of these types of substances such as eph 25+, clen, grenades as they do not effect me as much as my training buds, they get sweats etc where as i dont seen to feel them, so i must be going wrong somwhere. and that why i am on here, here is what i took, ate and trained like:
 

this is what i was going to take but it got confiscated at home, (read in other posts) same lab tho.

hello there again, ive decided im gonn aget my whole bodybuiding life changed or critisised,
here goes:
 
24
5 8"
14.10 - 15.3 stone depending on diet etc.
 
well lets get started, have been training for 7 years on and off, rest of the gym ends up being for a couple of months until i get the gym rat bug again but have been strict for the last yearish.
 
ive had more than i can count on my fingers of gym partners and different types of training routines but the 1 that i keep coming back to is the egomaniac go heavy or go home.....
 
my training split usually consists of:
 
Monday
chest
incline db press 4 sets pyramid reps, 12, 10, 8 and go for 6
flat bench "     "
db flys incline "  "
db flys flat " "
lower cable flys standing 3 sets medium weight, squeeze and form
 
tricep
skull crushes 4 sets pyramid reps 12, 10, 8 and go for 6
close grip bench "  "
cable straight/horn bar push downs "     "
rope push downs medium weight for burn
 
Tuesday
Back
lat pulldowns 4 sets pyramid reps 12, 10, 8, 6
db rows " "
t bar rows "   "
dead lift - go for what i can get best form from
lower back extensions with weights for burn
 
Bicep
alternate db preacher/hammer/seated curls 4 sets pyramid reps 20, 16, 12
olympic bar curl 4 sets pyramid reps 12, 10, 8, 6
machine curls 4 sets pyramid reps 12, 10, 8 amd 21 reps alternating arms and both arms foe burn
21 ez bar curl light weights for mad pump
 
wednesda
rest
 
Thursday
shoulders/traps
db/ smith press military press 4 sets pyramid reps 12, 10, 8, 6
uptight rows 4 sets pyramid reps 12, 10, 8, 6
front db raises "   "
DY seated side lat raises "   "
6 sets on cables light, reverse cable crossovers on top and bottom of machine and reverse standing side lat raises
 
Friday (have always neglected legs until the last few months)
Legs
leg seated extensions 4 sets pyramid reps 20, 16, 12 until blood fills legs
squats 4 sets pyramid reps 12, 10, 8, 6
lunges 4 sets pyramid walk half way up the gym and back
sledge "    "
seated and standing calf raises doing super sets and mixing up reps until i cant do no more
 
Saturday and Sunday
rest and cardio 45 mins
 
i also add in drop sets if i cant get the 6 reps on some weeks, halving the weight and aiming for 10 reps.
 
i try and mix up my exercises when i can, depends on what machines and weights are available.
 
any critisism would be great.
 
have tried lighter reps but i just dont get the PUMP as arnie would say as bad and my ego always gets the better of me in the gym.........
 
thanks
brummy saq

 
this was posted in routine section but not much response and i did cardio whenever i had chance, sometimes twice a day but it was generally 45 min walks.