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Re:Dazc competing today (Sunday) at the Leeds UKBFF 28 October 2009 20:51 (permalink)
You're going to rock it next year dude !
 
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    Re:Dazc competing today (Sunday) at the Leeds UKBFF 28 October 2009 21:16 (permalink)
    Glad you know what weight to aim for - i've got my height counting against me and I feel i'm heavy for my slim look - puts me up against the bigger chaps
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      Re:Dazc competing today (Sunday) at the Leeds UKBFF 28 October 2009 21:23 (permalink)
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      Glad you know what weight to aim for - i've got my height counting against me and I feel i'm heavy for my slim look - puts me up against the bigger chaps


      i thought you were doing a nabba show mate?  where the categorys are in height? or are you doing a ukbff show now?
       
      either way, you will look great on stage mate, and are definately ready for it!  one thing i did lear, this year, is just diet down, and be whatever you are when your ready!  Ive made the decision to move up a weight class so im talking about weight, but im not all that bothered what i end up, as long as its bigger and leaner than this year!
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        Re:Dazc competing today (Sunday) at the Leeds UKBFF 28 October 2009 21:39 (permalink)
        Likely to put off Nabba so I can bulk hard until tail end of next year and come in big and cut perhpas do UKBFF.  I'm off AAS until end of Jan so I won't look my best if I go straight into a cut after a none assisted bulk (well in reality maintain).
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          Re:Dazc competing today (Sunday) at the Leeds UKBFF 28 October 2009 21:58 (permalink)
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          Likely to put off Nabba so I can bulk hard until tail end of next year and come in big and cut perhpas do UKBFF.  I'm off AAS until end of Jan so I won't look my best if I go straight into a cut after a none assisted bulk (well in reality maintain).


          i think the later in the year shows (ukbff) are better to diet for anyway.  much easier to diet in summer, as the warmer weather makes it harder eating as much as in winter anyway.
           
          if you do one towards the end of summer, then that gives you a good long time to prepare, you will look great once show ready mate
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            Re:Dazc competing today (Sunday) at the Leeds UKBFF 28 October 2009 22:47 (permalink)
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              Re:Dazc competing today (Sunday) at the Leeds UKBFF 30 October 2009 19:13 (permalink)
              chest tonight, good session, but chest had so much more to give, hampered by shoulders, which arent playing at the moment, looks like a routine change is in order to prevent further injury and a possible layoff.

              DB incline press
              20kgx20
              30kgx18
              47.5kgx14
              47.5kgx12
              47.5kgx9
              30kgx2

              flys
              3 sets of 10kg (light and slow, shoulder doesnt really like flys)

              flat bench
              100kgx15
              120kgx12
              120kgx10
              100kgx15
              60kgx18

              Tricep pushdowns
              cant remember what i did, but it was lot of sets and lots of reps.  again though, hapered by shoulder pain.  and back of the tris was a bit sore from stiff arm pusdowns on back day wednesday.

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                Re:Dazc competing today (Sunday) at the Leeds UKBFF 30 October 2009 19:52 (permalink)
                progress photos, 5 weeks post show, weighing 14st2lb








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                  Re:Dazc competing today (Sunday) at the Leeds UKBFF 30 October 2009 19:59 (permalink)
                  heres a comparison, of me at 8 weeks out, weighing 13.4 ish, and a bit more bodyfat, compared to now at 14.2.   


                   




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                    Re:Dazc competing today (Sunday) at the Leeds UKBFF 30 October 2009 20:06 (permalink)
                    Do you always leave your shoes lying around everywhere ?

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                      Re:Dazc competing today (Sunday) at the Leeds UKBFF 30 October 2009 20:32 (permalink)
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                      Do you always leave your shoes lying around everywhere ?  



                      yes! lol dont have anywhere to put them at the moment, need to get the extension finished!
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                        Re:Dazc competing today (Sunday) at the Leeds UKBFF 31 October 2009 08:59 (permalink)
                        Keeping the BF% low overall and some thick tris there mate .
                        I think you have more muscle fullness and roundness post show.
                        Which i think is down to the  rebound growth after the show .

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                          Re:Dazc competing today (Sunday) at the Leeds UKBFF 31 October 2009 18:49 (permalink)
                          hi mate, how long has youre current cycle been?

                          reason i ask is that you said in another thread that you like 8 week cycles for recovery but as youve done a show diet and rebound surely youve been on longer? do you feel your going to lose size coming off?
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                            Re:Dazc competing today (Sunday) at the Leeds UKBFF 31 October 2009 19:15 (permalink)
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                            hi mate, how long has youre current cycle been?

                            reason i ask is that you said in another thread that you like 8 week cycles for recovery but as youve done a show diet and rebound surely youve been on longer? do you feel your going to lose size coming off?

                             
                            in that thread mate, i said when i used to cycle with time on and time off.  i dont run things like that anymore, being competitve and moving up classes and progressing means taking a different route with things for the vast majority of people unfortunately.  But for most people time on and off is definately the best way.
                             
                            but that is such a TINY part of the picture, that i havent been putting details in my journal, and will continue not to do so.  people can make assumptions if they like, but i dont use alot of stuff.  cutting for my show for example, involved no fat burners or stimulants.
                             
                            sorry i havent been more specific mate

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                              Re:Dazc competing today (Sunday) at the Leeds UKBFF 31 October 2009 19:25 (permalink)
                              fair enough mate im not so bothered about specific doses as its all relative anyway. wil most people who compete stay on for say 9 months off for three and repeat?

                              also what do you feel previously was key to maintaining gains between cycles? did you lower volume when strength begins to inevitably drop?
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                                Re:Dazc competing today (Sunday) at the Leeds UKBFF 31 October 2009 19:29 (permalink)
                                TBH Swift I have found my strength has stayed the same since I came off. 

                                I was actually thinking the other day it is like that;
                                When smaller the water that steroids make you hold makes the muscle I dunno, 10-20% bigger.   When you come off, the water drops.  Because a massive amount of water drops so does the strength.

                                When bigger, you muscle %age will be higher so the water size increase is much smaller as the %age of the muscle that is made up with water is smaller.

                                Thats my thinking anyway.

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                                  Re:Dazc competing today (Sunday) at the Leeds UKBFF 31 October 2009 19:35 (permalink)
                                  swift


                                  fair enough mate im not so bothered about specific doses as its all relative anyway. wil most people who compete stay on for say 9 months off for three and repeat?

                                  also what do you feel previously was key to maintaining gains between cycles? did you lower volume when strength begins to inevitably drop?


                                  ive never really seen big strenth increases, and therefore big losses either mate.  But i dont suffer water retention like alot, and i control it if there is any. 
                                   
                                  as long as your working the muscle then a drop in strenth coming off cycle wont cause muscle loss imo, your still giving it maximum stimulous at the end of the day.
                                   
                                  losses are water, people way over estimate how much they can and do gain per cycle.  3-4lbs muscle from 10-12 weeks would in my opinion be good gains.
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                                    Re:Dazc competing today (Sunday) at the Leeds UKBFF 31 October 2009 19:51 (permalink)
                                    fair enough papa maybe because youve been at a good strength for a while its more keepable?
                                    when ive been on cycle 2 plates each side for 10 plus reps on bench is really quite easy .

                                    ive been off ages now i can just about hit the same weights maybe a few reps shy but the weights definately feel alot heavier. tbf im working away from home so diet could be better but its certainly not terrible.
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                                      Re:Dazc competing today (Sunday) at the Leeds UKBFF 31 October 2009 20:19 (permalink)
                                      Main thing I miss is how pumped I feel all the time and the vascularity and fullness you feel and look.

                                      Back on end of Jan - can't come soon enough
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                                        Re:Dazc competing today (Sunday) at the Leeds UKBFF 31 October 2009 20:34 (permalink)
                                        amen to that!
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