Sdrol for first ever cycle?

Re:Sdrol for first ever cycle? (Icemansoldier)

Thu, 22 Oct 2009 14:26:31 GMT

AWG

Test-E 500mg for 10/12weeks

start at Christmass hopefully

Hopefully take me up to 15stone

then cut down to about 14stone and look half-decent

Cool im thinking about a test cycle before the summer. Going to hop on SD again soon.

Re:Sdrol for first ever cycle? (PredatorNutrition)

Thu, 22 Oct 2009 11:41:09 GMT

mikejm

OK I've found a source for Nolva and Clom now but it's in liquid form - LiquiNolva/LiquiClom. Are you supposed to inject this like with real steriods? I didn't know PCT came in liquid form..

No, liwuid nolva if you can rely on the manufacturing process is meant to be absorbed orally so drink away.

Re:Sdrol for first ever cycle? (AWG)

Thu, 22 Oct 2009 11:14:36 GMT

Neither did I.

best waiting for someone like Darri or Celt to view this and give you your answer before purchasing

Re:Sdrol for first ever cycle? (mikejm)

Thu, 22 Oct 2009 10:43:51 GMT

OK I've found a source for Nolva and Clom now but it's in liquid form - LiquiNolva/LiquiClom. Are you supposed to inject this like with real steriods? I didn't know PCT came in liquid form..

Re:Sdrol for first ever cycle? (AWG)

Wed, 21 Oct 2009 22:23:26 GMT

Test-E 500mg for 10/12weeks

start at Christmass hopefully

Hopefully take me up to 15stone

then cut down to about 14stone and look half-decent

Re:Sdrol for first ever cycle? (Icemansoldier)

Wed, 21 Oct 2009 22:16:07 GMT

AWG

Icemansoldier

mikejm

OK there's no doubt I could gain more muscle than I have naturally, but obviously it will take a lot longer and I don't intend to make steriods an ongoing thing, just kind of want to get my strength up and see some good gains quickly to motivate me more for when I go back to doing it naturally!

Will check out your reviews!

Mate thats what i said, once you try steriods im pretty sure you will do another cycle a few months later. Once you get a taste of what steriods can do, you may be hungry for more 'quick gains.'

Yeah check out my reviews mate i hope it helps you out.

totally agreed.....training natural is depressing once you've done a cycle, can't wait till I go on again

^ true, what you got planned next mate and when?

Re:Sdrol for first ever cycle? (AWG)

Wed, 21 Oct 2009 22:12:06 GMT

Icemansoldier

mikejm

OK there's no doubt I could gain more muscle than I have naturally, but obviously it will take a lot longer and I don't intend to make steriods an ongoing thing, just kind of want to get my strength up and see some good gains quickly to motivate me more for when I go back to doing it naturally!

Will check out your reviews!

Mate thats what i said, once you try steriods im pretty sure you will do another cycle a few months later. Once you get a taste of what steriods can do, you may be hungry for more 'quick gains.'

Yeah check out my reviews mate i hope it helps you out.

totally agreed.....training natural is depressing once you've done a cycle, can't wait till I go on again

Re:Sdrol for first ever cycle? (mikejm)

Wed, 21 Oct 2009 22:11:54 GMT

Oh I didn't realise there could be a possibility it affects natural gains after. Does any one know about this for sure?

Thanks for your help!

Re:Sdrol for first ever cycle? (Icemansoldier)

Wed, 21 Oct 2009 22:07:54 GMT

mikejm

OK there's no doubt I could gain more muscle than I have naturally, but obviously it will take a lot longer and I don't intend to make steriods an ongoing thing, just kind of want to get my strength up and see some good gains quickly to motivate me more for when I go back to doing it naturally!

Will check out your reviews!

Mate thats what i said, once you try steriods im pretty sure you will do another cycle a few months later. Once you get a taste of what steriods can do, you may be hungry for more 'quick gains.'

Yeah check out my reviews mate i hope it helps you out.

Re:Sdrol for first ever cycle? (PredatorNutrition)

Wed, 21 Oct 2009 22:07:05 GMT

Hi Mike

I could recommend a lot of test boosters but if you see the article below you can probably determine what nutrients do what and better make an informed decision yourself.

http://www.muscletalk.c...stosterone-boosters.aspx

Re:Sdrol for first ever cycle? (Icemansoldier)

Wed, 21 Oct 2009 22:06:05 GMT

Yeah you can still make gains naturally after, whether steriod usage affects how good you gain naturally after usage of steriods im not sure.

Re:Sdrol for first ever cycle? (mikejm)

Wed, 21 Oct 2009 22:02:50 GMT

Daft question but once you've done steriods once you can still go back and make more gains naturally right?

Re:Sdrol for first ever cycle? (mikejm)

Wed, 21 Oct 2009 22:01:23 GMT

OK there's no doubt I could gain more muscle than I have naturally, but obviously it will take a lot longer and I don't intend to make steriods an ongoing thing, just kind of want to get my strength up and see some good gains quickly to motivate me more for when I go back to doing it naturally!

Will check out your reviews!

Re:Sdrol for first ever cycle? (Icemansoldier)

Wed, 21 Oct 2009 21:59:37 GMT

SD review page 14, post 267# mate - http://www.muscletalk.c...en-Log-m3518449-p14.aspx

Epi review page 21, post 419# - http://www.muscletalk.c...EK-LOG-m3258311-p21.aspx

Re:Sdrol for first ever cycle? (Icemansoldier)

Wed, 21 Oct 2009 21:55:20 GMT

Its just you could gain alot more naturally thats why pred is saying bulk up abit more.

I could give you a link to my epi and SD reviews, ill try and find them now and post them up.

I felt fine on SD throughout the cycle.

Re:Sdrol for first ever cycle? (mikejm)

Wed, 21 Oct 2009 21:43:39 GMT

Thanks have you got a link to any of the review?

Out of interest why exactly would it be unadvisable to start a cycle with my stats? would it not produce the desired results? Would the side effects be harder?

I hear people saying the crash is hard on sd and makes them feel like crap... how exactly does it make you feel and how long does it last?

Thanks

Re:Sdrol for first ever cycle? (Icemansoldier)

Wed, 21 Oct 2009 17:27:36 GMT

I was around your weight when i started so im not one to critisize but hard to pick out numbers but i think around the 200lb mark at a decent bf% would be a fine time to start. I would just use when you feel your ready too, in the end its up to you.

Test boosters work, a good one is cissus drol, it gets good reviews.

Re:Sdrol for first ever cycle? (mikejm)

Wed, 21 Oct 2009 13:38:44 GMT

PredatorNutrition

mikejm

Hi,

I've been training about 3 years, stats are 6'1, 185lb, 18% bf.
I'm thinking of doing a superdrol cycle but have never done anything before. I was thinking of following the example cycle on here but with just 10mg for the first week.
Is it vital to do the supplement stack load prior to the cycle? Would the Anabolic Xtreme Perfect Cycle be ok for the supplement stack or how about Cycle Assist? I don't have any source for a SERM so would only be using the rebound XT for PCT, as recommended in the example.

How long after the cycle should I stay off alcohol? Can you have it during PCT or wait for the full 6 weeks? Can you have alcohol during the load period? I want to do this properly so if alcohol is a definite no for 6 weeks plus load period I will adhere to it!

I would caution you very strongly against taking superdrol at all given your current stats. Even if you were to take a prohormone there are many milder options out there - h-drol, cynostane, protodrol, furazsdrol, epistane etc.

Truthfully though I would skip taking any prohormone and look at testosterone boosters for building muscle mass as I do not feel your current stats justify taking prohormones.

I thought someone may comment about my stats and I am open to this sort of advice too. Do test boosters really work? Which one do you recommend? What kind of stats should I be looking at before considering DS?

Re:Sdrol for first ever cycle? (Icemansoldier)

Wed, 21 Oct 2009 13:34:45 GMT

Im no expert on diet or routines so i suggest you post them in the relevant sections as i wouldnt be much help lol

Re:Sdrol for first ever cycle? (mikejm)

Wed, 21 Oct 2009 13:32:44 GMT

Training wise I'm doing push/pull/legs+shoulders

Mon:

Flat db bench
incline db bench
dips
skulls
tricep pushdowns

Weds:

Pullups
Single arm db rows
lat pulldown
shrugs
curls

Fri:

db shoulder press
squats
SLDL
lateral raises

Diet wise it's something like this:

1. 50g oats, 50g whey
2. 1 tin tuna, salad, 4 w/m bread or 100g w/m pasta, mayo, banana
3. 1 tin tuna, 100 w/m pasta OR 50g oats, 50g whey
4. PWO 50g whey
5. chicken breast, veg, basmati rice OR lean mince, veg, 2 yolks, 5 whites, basmati rice.
6. 1 tin of mackerel or 200g cottage cheese with pineapple.