H-drol for 4 weeks?

Re:H-drol for 4 weeks? (Daari)

Sat, 24 Oct 2009 02:31:45 GMT

PredatorNutrition

I would say that if hairloss is a concern milder prohormones such as cynostane or protodrol make for better choices than superdrol which is more androgenic based on what I have seen.

Adding to this, I will say though that I have designed hair prevention stacks based on a variety of products which will prevent and reverse hair loss should it occur. A base product for this would be Propecia, or, if especially concerned, Avodart.

I do not recommend them if maximum muscle mass is a goal though as you will lose the strength building effects of DHT mediated via its strong CNS effects, plus its anti-estrogenic and fat burning benefits.

Reversing hair loss is very very tricky. Many patients on finasteride or duasteride experience an increased amount of shedding in the first few weeks; after which, things get better. So using these drugs wouldn't really be the safest bet for short-term cycles, IMO

Re:H-drol for 4 weeks? (Jiffy)

Fri, 23 Oct 2009 22:45:38 GMT

h-drol is pretty mild in terms of side effects - I know everyone will be different but in my experience all i experienced was a bit of back pumps towards the end if the cycle and a bit of water retention around the cheeks, chin area.

Excellent results with muscle gain though.

I also think tamoxifen is an overkill on this as it is anti-estrogenic, perhaps a test booster such as diesel test would help but I reckon your body sorts itself out soon enough anyway.

Re:H-drol for 4 weeks? (Celt)

Fri, 23 Oct 2009 14:24:49 GMT

danchubbz

so you're sticking to the SERM route then?

Yes mate, have mostly used nolva to date but recently ran raloxifene to good effect. Without talking costs pharma raloxifene is a no-brainer compared to ots.

Re:H-drol for 4 weeks? (PredatorNutrition)

Fri, 23 Oct 2009 13:39:50 GMT

I would say that if hairloss is a concern milder prohormones make for better choices than superdrol which is more androgenic based on what I have seen.

Adding to this, I will say though that I have designed hair prevention stacks based on a variety of products which will prevent and reverse hair loss should it occur. A base product for this would be Propecia, or, if especially concerned, Avodart.

I do not recommend them if maximum muscle mass is a goal though as you will lose the strength building effects of DHT mediated via its strong CNS effects, plus its anti-estrogenic and fat burning benefits.

Re:H-drol for 4 weeks? (danchubbz)

Fri, 23 Oct 2009 11:21:18 GMT

Celt

Captain T

dont want to risk my hair!

SD isn't any more likely than any other choice of OTS steroid for reports of hairloss from all I've seen mate. Reality is that different compounds affect different people in different ways - whether you will get any hairloss at all from any compound is a risk we all take when we use them.

Daari

Absolutely nothing. Some say the gains slow down after 5 weeks anyway.

That has been my experience too, 5 weeks is ideal for h-drol ime.

danchubbz

what's your PCT gonna be with this mate?

Raloxifene at 60mg ed for 20 days, likely alongside albuterol at 16mg ed

so you're sticking to the SERM route then?

Re:H-drol for 4 weeks? (Celt)

Fri, 23 Oct 2009 07:50:26 GMT

Captain T

dont want to risk my hair!

SD isn't any more likely than any other choice of OTS steroid for reports of hairloss from all I've seen mate. Reality is that different compounds affect different people in different ways - whether you will get any hairloss at all from any compound is a risk we all take when we use them.

Daari

Absolutely nothing. Some say the gains slow down after 5 weeks anyway.

That has been my experience too, 5 weeks is ideal for h-drol ime.

danchubbz

what's your PCT gonna be with this mate?

Raloxifene at 60mg ed for 20 days, likely alongside albuterol at 16mg ed

Re:H-drol for 4 weeks? (Daari)

Thu, 22 Oct 2009 22:41:56 GMT

Celt

What would be wrong with a 5 week cycle?

It's probably what I will run when next running h-drol, at 100mg ed.

Absolutely nothing. Some say the gains slow down after 5 weeks anyway.

Re:H-drol for 4 weeks? (Icemansoldier)

Thu, 22 Oct 2009 17:56:09 GMT

My dads bald it didnt agravate hairloss anymore bro.

Re:H-drol for 4 weeks? (Captain T)

Thu, 22 Oct 2009 17:52:07 GMT

dont want to risk my hair!

Re:H-drol for 4 weeks? (Icemansoldier)

Thu, 22 Oct 2009 17:43:39 GMT

Captain T

yeh to hell with it, i'll do a 6 week hdrol or maybe 4 week protodrol...decisions decisions!

So many choices its so hard too chose, go for SD and you wont look back bro! :D

Re:H-drol for 4 weeks? (Captain T)

Thu, 22 Oct 2009 17:30:31 GMT

yeh to hell with it, i'll do a 6 week hdrol or maybe 4 week protodrol...decisions decisions!

Re:H-drol for 4 weeks? (danchubbz)

Thu, 22 Oct 2009 17:17:45 GMT

Celt

What would be wrong with a 5 week cycle?

It's probably what I will run when next running h-drol, at 100mg ed.

what's your PCT gonna be with this mate?

Re:H-drol for 4 weeks? (Icemansoldier)

Thu, 22 Oct 2009 16:00:33 GMT

RK86

Sorry little sidetrack:
How long does it usually take for the likes of Hdrol or Hroid to kick in or at least feel/notice something? i was expecting 3 weeks ish?

Yeah 3 weeks ish mate, maybe glimpses in week 2.

Re:H-drol for 4 weeks? (RK86)

Thu, 22 Oct 2009 15:28:16 GMT

Sorry little sidetrack:
How long does it usually take for the likes of Hdrol or Hroid to kick in or at least feel/notice something? i was expecting 3 weeks ish?

Re:H-drol for 4 weeks? (Celt)

Thu, 22 Oct 2009 15:27:57 GMT

What would be wrong with a 5 week cycle?

It's probably what I will run when next running h-drol, at 100mg ed.

Re:H-drol for 4 weeks? (Icemansoldier)

Thu, 22 Oct 2009 14:59:33 GMT

Agree with skull and daari, if you felt fine on 8 weeks epi you should be fine on 6 week hdrol.

6 weeker imo cap.

Re:H-drol for 4 weeks? (Daari)

Wed, 21 Oct 2009 23:02:31 GMT

Many people in the US also recommend h-drol be ran for more than 4 weeks. I have read countless threads stating so.

H-drol is a compound that kicks in rather late, so it's not particularily suited to a short cycle (despite the original halodrol only being a 30 day cycle). If you're after a shorter cycle, then i'd consider another compound: one that 'kicks' in a little quicker such as SD or PP, IMO

Re:H-drol for 4 weeks? (PredatorNutrition)

Wed, 21 Oct 2009 22:08:09 GMT

I think this is one case where I side with US members. I think long cycles are unneceassary and, given the longer recovery period and risk of side effects, counter-productive.

Re:H-drol for 4 weeks? (powerhouse_ad)

Wed, 21 Oct 2009 20:52:48 GMT

I ran H-drol for 6 weeks, but didn't really notice much more in the last two weeks.

Run for 4 weeks at 75mg IMO.

Re:H-drol for 4 weeks? (Skullcrusher)

Wed, 21 Oct 2009 20:34:33 GMT

The reason why ppl tend yo run Hdrol for longer cycles is because is a lot milder than things like SD, and it takes longer to "kick in".

That's not to say that you can't run Hdrol for 4 weeks though, but to be honest mate, if you're looking at a short cycle, you would be better of running something like Superdrol IMO, esp if you're mass building and want strength gains too. Plus you could just run that for 3 weeks @ 20mg.

Ultimately though, and as Condor also said, it is completely up to you.