Test e cycle questions?

Re:Test e cycle questions? (Icemansoldier)

Fri, 13 Nov 2009 19:15:30 GMT

npg2funky

im on the same kinda cyle as u mate.

i have easily added 30-40 kg to most lifts, almost became to easy lol Big key is 2 eat right, train hard and rest, the gear will do the rest.

Thanks mate, interesting, whats your cycle mate?

Re:Test e cycle questions? (Icemansoldier)

Fri, 13 Nov 2009 19:14:07 GMT

phmcgru

because i had so much left over as i only did 20mg/day the first time. this time, i ramped up to 30mg/day for the last week and thought i would see something at this strength. think next time, ill kickstart with dbol. never tried it before and lots of people recommended it to start a test cycle. plus i want to see what the fuss is about (all the 17/18 year olds ((stupid)) rave about it in my gym).

I see cool mate, yeah dbol a popular aas, hope you respond to it mate.

Re:Test e cycle questions? (npg2funky)

Fri, 13 Nov 2009 17:01:00 GMT

im on the same kinda cyle as u mate.

i have easily added 30-40 kg to most lifts, almost became to easy lol Big key is 2 eat right, train hard and rest, the gear will do the rest.

Re:Test e cycle questions? (phmcgru)

Fri, 13 Nov 2009 14:28:17 GMT

because i had so much left over as i only did 20mg/day the first time. this time, i ramped up to 30mg/day for the last week and thought i would see something at this strength. think next time, ill kickstart with dbol. never tried it before and lots of people recommended it to start a test cycle. plus i want to see what the fuss is about (all the 17/18 year olds ((stupid)) rave about it in my gym).

Re:Test e cycle questions? (Icemansoldier)

Fri, 13 Nov 2009 14:00:04 GMT

I see thats a apprantly a solid brand for SD, so you must not respond, why did you run it again if you got next to nothing first time round mate?

Re:Test e cycle questions? (phmcgru)

Thu, 12 Nov 2009 08:45:47 GMT

It was the genetic edge SD. first cycle was 20mg per day for 3 weeks, 2nd cycle was 20mg for 2 weeks then 30mg per day for a week.

Re:Test e cycle questions? (Icemansoldier)

Wed, 11 Nov 2009 17:00:23 GMT

What SD clone did you use mate, so you got no gains or sides? I added 20lbs in 3 weeks and alot of mass in that timeframe, and strength went up nicely and was most pronounced in week 2.

Most people who use SD rave about it, i rarely see anyone say they got nothing from it tbh mate, you must not respond to it.

Re:Test e cycle questions? (phmcgru)

Wed, 11 Nov 2009 16:42:44 GMT

its strange. you obvioulsy swear by SD. i started my cycle with left over SD from my last cycle. 20mg for weeks 1-2 the 30mg for week 3. i didnt really see anything from it this time or the first time (first time was SD on its own). just dont think i respond very well to it. if it works for you though, im not going to say its shti or anythin, just i wouldnt by it again. esp. knowing i can get half of a 500mg/w test cycle for the same price.

Re:Test e cycle questions? (Icemansoldier)

Wed, 11 Nov 2009 16:30:16 GMT

phmcgru

needle is good. warm test in hot water for about 4-6mins before you jab (makes the oil thinner).

you say you want to add at least 5kg to your bench. i would be expecting you to add this naturally in the space of a month at the most, so really put the effort in on cycle to make the most.my bench is up 10kg and im only 5 weeks in (test enth 500mg/w).

get a good spotter (who knows how to spot properly, i.e. not just looking round the gym at the girls) and try a bit more weight every week.i like to visualise power flowing from the floor, up my legs into my chest and arms, then i explode. cheesy but find it works, gives me good aggression.

:)

Thanks for the response mate. Yeah i think 20kg altogether is realistic, 10kg on sd, 10kg on test. Cool nice results 10kg in 5 weeks is awesome considering it takes a few weeks for test to kick in. Yeah ill up reps/weight every session, nice visualisation technique, thanks mate.

Re:Test e cycle questions? (phmcgru)

Wed, 11 Nov 2009 16:02:29 GMT

needle is good. warm test in hot water for about 4-6mins before you jab (makes the oil thinner).

you say you want to add at least 5kg to your bench. i would be expecting you to add this naturally in the space of a month at the most, so really put the effort in on cycle to make the most.my bench is up 10kg and im only 5 weeks in (test enth 500mg/w).

get a good spotter (who knows how to spot properly, i.e. not just looking round the gym at the girls) and try a bit more weight every week.i like to visualise power flowing from the floor, up my legs into my chest and arms, then i explode. cheesy but find it works, gives me good aggression.

:)

Re:Test e cycle questions? (Icemansoldier)

Wed, 11 Nov 2009 15:43:55 GMT

Do you's heat your vials?

Is 1.25 23g ok for injecting quads and glute, yeah?

Re:Test e cycle questions? (Icemansoldier)

Wed, 11 Nov 2009 14:55:09 GMT

I was going to use standard nolva for 3 weeks in pct, this ok, someone told me to use both nolva and clomid together and they said its needed.

What do you think and what do you use for pct and how long? Thanks.

Re:Test e cycle questions? (Icemansoldier)

Mon, 09 Nov 2009 16:06:32 GMT

Ive got SD and actually got dbol as well, atm im thinking ill run SD as i got good gains in strength and weight from it, gained about 20lbs in under 4 weeks, strength went up abit too, dont like the stretch marks though. I hear dbol just blows you up so dont fancy using it. Wanna try and stay leanish as im just off a 4 week cut which i lost 13 lbs and im looking alot thinner and toned so happy enough, but only 12.7 stone, aw well this will bulk me up.

Will prob do a log, i like logs :)

Week 1 - SD 10/10/10/20/20/20/20mg + Test 500pw
Week 2 - SD 20mg + Test 500pw
Week 3 - SD 20mg + Test 500pw
Week 4 - Test 500pw
Week 5 - Test 500pw
Week 6 - Test 500pw
Week 7 - Test 500pw
Week 8 - Test 500pw
Week 9 - Test 500pw
Week 10 - Test 500pw

Look good?

If i run the above by the end i would like/expect to be approx 20 - 28 lbs (1 st 6lbs - 2st) heavier.

Bench up at least 15kg+, i expect to add 10kg with SD and im sure test e will add at least 5kg to my bench, maybe more i hope.

I feel the above goals are realistic, as i like to make a few goals pre cycle.

Cant wait to start! Plan to start next week!

Re:Test e cycle questions? (Icemansoldier)

Mon, 09 Nov 2009 15:54:06 GMT

wiffers - thanks mate, i would prefer once a week tbh, but i give it a go and see whats best for me. Training is good, ill improve my diet on cycle.

spencerslide - i get ya, ta mate.

Re:Test e cycle questions? (spencerslide)

Fri, 06 Nov 2009 21:05:10 GMT

wiffers

not more painful to inject more quantity

inject once a week, easier, less scarring

if diet/training ok you'll easily bench 80 ok. My mate gone from 110kgx6 to 130kgx6 on his first cycle, and he's only half way through. Saying that, his other lifts not up a lot.

But don't try and quantify gains, just go in, and do the best you can

agree with this. Not a miracle drug but sure does help - going on test changed my shape more than anything - done right it really makes a difference but done half arsed you may be disappointed. judging by your posts i read mate i suspect you'll have a good cycle.

Re:Test e cycle questions? (wiffers)

Fri, 06 Nov 2009 14:48:31 GMT

not more painful to inject more quantity

inject once a week, easier, less scarring

if diet/training ok you'll easily bench 80 ok. My mate gone from 110kgx6 to 130kgx6 on his first cycle, and he's only half way through. Saying that, his other lifts not up a lot.

But don't try and quantify gains, just go in, and do the best you can

Re:Test e cycle questions? (Icemansoldier)

Fri, 06 Nov 2009 14:11:18 GMT

Thanks spencer, id rather shoot once a week but i would imagine if may be more painful and would take longer to inject, so not too sure, i would also prefer to inject once a week so i could use my right glute, left thigh, then right thigh then rotate again, but dont think that should be a problem even if i shoot twice a week.

Re:Test e cycle questions? (spencerslide)

Fri, 06 Nov 2009 14:02:23 GMT

personally i would just shoot once a week - considering ester and half life, the differences would be negligable, if any, between injecting once or twice imo...just 2 bit....

Re:Test e cycle questions? (Icemansoldier)

Fri, 06 Nov 2009 12:56:09 GMT

Wannabebigger

TBH i wouldnt worry about kg's extra you can put on the bar but concern yourself with gaining as much lean mass you can but dont confuse this with what you read on the scales.

Keep diet clean but high cals (enough to put you in a positive calorie state) plenty of water so you see that gains you are making then work your ass off in gym, plenty of off days to make the gains as thats when you grow, also plenty of sleep then report back and tell us how much lean mass you made, if by then you are still interested in how many kg's you can do please share that too.

Best of luck.

PS 2 shots a week would be better.

Im not really worried about mass as i know test e is will add mass no problem, just want to up my strength abit, not concerned and dont wish to put on a ton of mass as my aim isnt to be massive, my aim is a muscley model type physique maybe 16/16,5 inch arms and decent chest at a medium bf% 14/15% as i couldnt keep my bf% in the 12/13% all year round.

Yeah i hear test can add water retention so that would make gains in weight higher, but i hear some water retention can help with lifts not sure if this is true or not. I plan to train 3/4 times a week, so a good 3/4 days rest no problem. Thanks for the sound advice mate. Yeah i plan to inject on thur and sun.

Would it be ok if i injected twice weekly to do, right glute, left thigh, right thigh, then repeat as im not sure if i could inject my left glute :S

Thanks again mate.

ps - very amusing avatar

Re:Test e cycle questions? (Icemansoldier)

Fri, 06 Nov 2009 12:50:14 GMT

dazc

you should easily be able to add 10kg onto a 70kg bench, if not then there is something wrong somewhere else!

Thanks dazc, thats what im hoping for at least.