200kg bench - would you believe this/possible without AAS?

Re:200kg bench - would you believe this/possible without AAS? (DonPaulo666)

Thu, 05 Nov 2009 19:27:59 GMT

Fat Pete

DonPaulo666

I've seen 200kg pressed naturally AND raw on more than one ocassion.
Enough said.

The absence of a specific number leads me to believe that you mean twice. Was it the same person each time or different people ?

As usual, couldnae be bothered expanding

It woz two different people on two seperate ocassions, both bang on 200kg and natural as well as unequipped. Impressive!

Rumour has it that a lad on the I.O.W has pressed 300kg raw but assisted. Owner of gym and a few lads I train with said it was a guid rep but I have to see it to believe it. If so, world class! (this was a guid few years ago though so don't think I'll be able to confirm)

Re:200kg bench - would you believe this/possible without AAS? (Mobster)

Thu, 05 Nov 2009 14:22:12 GMT

The old style were notorius for being absolute murder to get on. Two and sometimes three helpers and blood spots around the neck and sleeves. The last few years we've effectively banned them from our Xmas friendly / whey ower challenge because of the faffing about involved.

Re:200kg bench - would you believe this/possible without AAS? (The Guvnor)

Thu, 05 Nov 2009 13:51:20 GMT

T0NY

As far as banging on a bench shirt and instantly nailing a PB its not going to happen. If you simply went and bought a shirt, first off you probably wouldn't be able to get it on. If you did get it on my bet would be you wouldn't get anywhere near touching your chest. Thirdly chances are you'd lose your line and end up decapitating yourself.

LMAO - this is so true. My brother bought an Inzer bench shirt. Got it and bloody knuckles later, it is too small, short etcetera. It was for a 110kg lifter and he was 110kg! Not a chance in hell of getting it on. In fact it has never been worn. Still has it somewhere!

Re:200kg bench - would you believe this/possible without AAS? (Papa Lazarou)

Thu, 05 Nov 2009 13:36:39 GMT

LMC - no spotter so unassisted to failure, with a spotter I could have prolly pushed 11.

My weakness is my previously torn but healed shoulder tho - at what point does it snap LOL

Re:200kg bench - would you believe this/possible without AAS? (Papa Lazarou)

Thu, 05 Nov 2009 13:35:16 GMT

TBH I tend to stay lighter and go for pump normally - just thought i'd do something leading up to xmas for a change. Mixing it up may help growth however

Re:200kg bench - would you believe this/possible without AAS? (LMC)

Thu, 05 Nov 2009 13:34:38 GMT

Papa - the 1RM calculators would give you a predicted 1RM of at least 186kg based on your numbers above. If the 10 reps wasn't to failure then the predicted figure would be slightly higher still.

Re:200kg bench - would you believe this/possible without AAS? (Mobster)

Thu, 05 Nov 2009 13:22:34 GMT

Papa Lazarou

Good benching there. Because of this thread i've decided to do a month of trying to increase my strength in benching so did a whole lot of benching last nite (140kg x 10, 8, 6 and then 4). Gonna try to get it back up to my PB of 180kg by xmas.

Whether this is possible for me naturally, I dunno

Strange how the whole rep thing works. The most I've ever repped heavy is 150 and that was for a few sets of 3 reps. Yet I've done 190kg for a single. Indeed multiple singles with 80-90% of my 1RM work for me way better than any rep work. It may be a muscle fibre type thing (ie: I'm not set for reps).

I'm also working with at least 1, poss two lads to get them to do some new 1RM PB's this xmas. One has a 120kg 1RM and I think, with all the tips and tricks which can be used, I can get him to a (or around) 140-kilo single.

Re:200kg bench - would you believe this/possible without AAS? (essex_chris)

Thu, 05 Nov 2009 13:13:55 GMT

Haha. I've created a monster

Re:200kg bench - would you believe this/possible without AAS? (LMC)

Thu, 05 Nov 2009 13:08:30 GMT

i doubt the form would have passed in a comp

Cue another 8 pages on comp lifts vs BBer lifts

Re:200kg bench - would you believe this/possible without AAS? (essex_chris)

Thu, 05 Nov 2009 12:41:15 GMT

sivvy1

essex chris you should train more and post less

In your humble opinion sivvy1

People should certainly pull their neck in a touch when being dismissive of something. I know i can say hand on heart that i don't dismiss shirted/suited lifts. Almost any lifting is a real achievement and a positive thing.

iank

I must however add that in the main this thread has been clear of that!

Pretty much how i've looked at the thread. I'm always prepared to have anything i post questioned or challenged. Doesn't bother me in the slightest.

I'd just settle in the medium term to reach a 150kg lift. Absolute max for me is ~120kg but i doubt the form would have passed in a comp!

Re:200kg bench - would you believe this/possible without AAS? (Papa Lazarou)

Thu, 05 Nov 2009 12:32:41 GMT

Good benching there. Because of this thread i've decided to do a month of trying to increase my strength in benching so did a whole lot of benching last nite (140kg x 10, 8, 6 and then 4). Gonna try to get it back up to my PB of 180kg by xmas.

Whether this is possible for me naturally, I dunno

Re:200kg bench - would you believe this/possible without AAS? (Nick_Miramo)

Thu, 05 Nov 2009 12:04:18 GMT

I've managed 180kg raw and am natural and that was after 60kg x 8, 80kg x 8, 100kg x 8, 125kg x 8, 150kg x 6 then 180kg x 1 just to see if i could do it. Would love to do 200kg as my goal was 180.

Apparently at a natural bench press competition at Monster Gym in Cheshunt some bloke benched 230kg or something massive. Would love to see someone moving that sort of weight shirted or not its very impressive!

Re:200kg bench - would you believe this/possible without AAS? (sivvy1)

Thu, 05 Nov 2009 11:38:36 GMT

not quite, bit of a joke to be honest!!

Re:200kg bench - would you believe this/possible without AAS? (iaink)

Thu, 05 Nov 2009 11:34:56 GMT

Yeah the custard does make that miracle easier.

Given the number of boating accidents sivvy has had, he's best clear of water! ;) Hope you've sorted that crusie out pal?

Re:200kg bench - would you believe this/possible without AAS? (BROKEN)

Thu, 05 Nov 2009 11:29:38 GMT

iaink

BROKEN

I am sure it would be possible, same as a certain man walking on water

You really think a 200kg bench drug free is impossible? I have seen a couple in my time as an unequipped powerlifter. Given the size of em I doubt either of em could walk on water!

no ofcourse not, but if my first post in like 6 mnths wasn't slightly controversial then it just wouldn't feel right.
They could run on custard though!!

Re:200kg bench - would you believe this/possible without AAS? (sivvy1)

Thu, 05 Nov 2009 11:29:34 GMT

i will never walk on water, but i will bench 200kg naturally

Re:200kg bench - would you believe this/possible without AAS? (iaink)

Thu, 05 Nov 2009 11:25:59 GMT

BROKEN

I am sure it would be possible, same as a certain man walking on water

You really think a 200kg bench drug free is impossible? I have seen a couple in my time as an unequipped powerlifter. Given the size of em I doubt either of em could walk on water!

Re:200kg bench - would you believe this/possible without AAS? (LMC)

Thu, 05 Nov 2009 11:25:44 GMT

Actually, the high jump/pole vault analogy would be more accurate if, to use the pole, rather than simply pick it up and take a firm grasp of it you had to contort your fist into such a position that it barely fitted the shape of the pole and during the course of the jump left your palm with severe bruising. I think that's a valid inclusion to the analogy.

Re:200kg bench - would you believe this/possible without AAS? (sivvy1)

Thu, 05 Nov 2009 11:24:30 GMT

iaink

Thought I'd point out that a powerlifter dosn't get the hump when it's pointed out their equipment helps them lift more. We don't go through that pain for a pat on the back! Powerlifters get the hump when people are dissmive, suggest it's somehow easy to do, and take the piss :)

I must however add that in the main this thread has been clear of that!

The jumping anaglogy is a fair one. As it makes a clear the distinction between the 2 lifts.

well said iain!!

Re:200kg bench - would you believe this/possible without AAS? (BROKEN)

Thu, 05 Nov 2009 11:21:47 GMT

I am sure it would be possible, same as a certain man walking on water