Calories v Carbs

Re:Calories v Carbs (hamiltonsfitness)

Wed, 05 Jan 2011 21:09:37 GMT

Re:Calories v Carbs (Nigeepoo)

Mon, 21 Dec 2009 00:27:22 GMT

Well, do ya?

Re:Calories v Carbs (1ManRiot)

Mon, 21 Dec 2009 00:21:04 GMT

Nigeepoo

Do you supplement with vegan DHA?

Re:Calories v Carbs (Nigeepoo)

Sun, 20 Dec 2009 22:57:33 GMT

iaink
But it's getting close. I suggest setting up another thread were you can have this good natured chat.

Feel free to delete any posts containing slagging/swearing/insulting.

Re:Calories v Carbs (Nigeepoo)

Sun, 20 Dec 2009 22:54:06 GMT

R3261

Who's talking about brain development? I'm talking about mental function. Quite a few non-oily fish eaters that I know are right argumentative buggers.
I know what you're talking about. Hint: look up surrogate outcomes.
And while your there perhaps take a moment to consider why psycholigal measures are not the most reliable form of evidence.

Being an "argumentative bugger" is an actual end-point rather than a surrogate one, IMO. But yes, it's not a reliable form of evidence!

Re:Calories v Carbs (iaink)

Sun, 20 Dec 2009 19:46:06 GMT

But it's getting close.

I suggest setting up another thread were you can have this good natured chat

Re:Calories v Carbs (swordfish)

Sun, 20 Dec 2009 19:14:30 GMT

and i think the discusion should continue, we all might learn something, and its not asif they are slagging/swearing/insulting eachother

Re:Calories v Carbs (Nigeepoo)

Sun, 20 Dec 2009 19:12:05 GMT

The OP's question was answered by post #9.
We're now ~~arguing about~~ discussing other stuff!

Re:Calories v Carbs (iaink)

Sun, 20 Dec 2009 18:56:48 GMT

Thread way of topic I feel. Is it gona get back on course or continue in this manner?

Re:Calories v Carbs (hamiltonsfitness)

Sun, 20 Dec 2009 14:52:36 GMT

You know and I know. It's they who don't know and insist that they're a vegetarian!

I'm glad you agree with me on this point then, you don't know vegetarians who eat fish.

Re:Calories v Carbs (R3261)

Sun, 20 Dec 2009 14:41:58 GMT

Who's talking about brain development? I'm talking about mental function. Quite a few non-oily fish eaters that I know are right argumentative buggers.[

I know what you're talking about. Hint: look up surrogate outcomes.

And while your there perhaps take a moment to consider why psycholigal measures are not the most reliable form of evidence.

Re:Calories v Carbs (Nigeepoo)

Sun, 20 Dec 2009 14:39:07 GMT

You know and I know. It's they who don't know and insist that they're a vegetarian!

Re:Calories v Carbs (hamiltonsfitness)

Sun, 20 Dec 2009 14:30:57 GMT

I know vegetarians that eat fish.

eerrmm... no, by definition they aren't vegetarians.

It's like saying "I know a few straight guys that prefer men."

Re:Calories v Carbs (Nigeepoo)

Sun, 20 Dec 2009 14:22:00 GMT

Big Les
Although - the metabolism of short chain fatty acids produced by gut bacteria is different than the saturated fat derived from your diet :)

In what way?

Re:Calories v Carbs (Nigeepoo)

Sun, 20 Dec 2009 14:19:49 GMT

R3261

Disagree. Your fat intake is very low, Stu. As you're virtually vegan, unless you're supplementing with vegan DHA, your brain is crying out for some DHA as men are p*ss-poor converters of DPA->DHA compared to women

Except for the lack of data to indicate deficits in braindevelopment among vegetarians

Surrogate outcomes are nice and all but always preliminary. And why it is far too early to say for certain wither way ^^

Who's talking about brain development? I'm talking about mental function. Quite a few non-oily fish eaters that I know are right argumentative buggers.

I know "vegetarians*" that eat fish. I know that a fish is not a vegetable, but different people draw the line in different places. People used to call my ex-G/F a vegetarian, but she had to point out that she's actually a "non-meat eater" as she eats fish/oily fish and she isn't an argumentative bugger!

*self-proclaimed
Edited for clarity.

Re:Calories v Carbs (Nigeepoo)

Sun, 20 Dec 2009 14:10:14 GMT

I'm not going to get into an argument over wording/semantics/w.h.y. You don't eat fish. Do you supplement with vegan DHA?

Re:Calories v Carbs (R3261)

Sun, 20 Dec 2009 14:08:31 GMT

Disagree. Your fat intake is very low, Stu. As you're virtually vegan, unless you're supplementing with vegan DHA, your brain is crying out for some DHA as men are p*ss-poor converters of DPA->DHA compared to women

Except for the lack of data to indicate deficits in braindevelopment among vegetarians

Surrogate outcomes are nice and all but always preliminary. And why it is far too early to say for certain wither way ^^

Re:Calories v Carbs (hamiltonsfitness)

Sun, 20 Dec 2009 13:57:32 GMT

What part of what I wrote did you not understand?

I believe I understand all of what you say, but I don't think you do.

Not eating fish doesn't make you virtually vegan.

Re:Calories v Carbs (Nigeepoo)

Sun, 20 Dec 2009 13:50:39 GMT

hamiltonsfitness

As you're virtually vegan
Really, this goes to show me how quick you are to jump to conclusions. From this I would suspect that you come to your conclusion first and then only look for evidence until you find enough to convince yourself of your existing hypothesis. A lot to conclude from a little sentance, I know, but that's how you do it isn't it.

Are you saying that you do eat oily fish? I could have sworn that you have stated on many occasions that you don't eat any sort of fish and therefore don't supplement with either fish or krill oil.

Ergo: you're virtually vegan and therefore have zero dietary intake of DHA unless you're supplementing with vegan DHA. What part of what I wrote did you not understand?

Re:Calories v Carbs (kaos_nw)

Sun, 20 Dec 2009 13:34:57 GMT

cheers everyone, Problem is if i dont add nuts etc i wont get much fat at all, dont eat chicken skin, hardly any red meant, dont cook in oil etc!

Damn i read a few places that 0.5lb a week is a good target for max muscle/glycogen gain without adding the fat! so ill stick with it for at least a month, would 0.5lb a month be more realistic? or every 2 weeks?