New Havoc Cycle

Re:New Havoc Cycle (PredatorNutrition)

Mon, 16 Nov 2009 12:22:42 GMT

The otcpct.com article is a good example of a PCT stack and one which has been used successfully by many people. I think a cortisol blocker would offer additional advantages as outlined below but the procedure laid out in the otcpct site is very good.

http://www.muscletalk.c...ost-cycle-treatment.aspx

Re:New Havoc Cycle (sbert99)

Sun, 15 Nov 2009 22:15:42 GMT

Thanks for the feedback Mark118 & Daari. Appreciated.

Going to stick with a 4 week cycle purely as its my first. If all goes well I may increase to 6 weeks for my next cycle dependent on how I respond/sides...

I am in no rush to get started (probably Jan) so will do some more research re: pct before posting again. The 6oxo protocol came from www.octpct.com. However, I understand your point...

I was simply going to finish the tub of CS if there was any left when I started pct. No other reason.

When I have everything in place I will log my cycle for those that are interested.

Thanks again...

Re:New Havoc Cycle (mark118)

Sat, 14 Nov 2009 19:46:25 GMT

im not sure why you're using 6oxo so late (or at all) and wouldnt the test booster be better suited to be started at the begining of week 3?

the decending dose of 6oxo is odd, an ergopharm rep told me that in PCT 300mg/day steady is the ideal way to run it. but that would be immediately in PCT, not after 4 weeks which is something that I havent seen any user actually do in the forums. I think its a waste to add it, and would just run 2 bottles of Act Xtreme or Act Xtreme then Stoked.

also, why run the cycle support in PCT? reversitol doesnt put any strain on the liver.

Re:New Havoc Cycle (Daari)

Sat, 14 Nov 2009 19:29:03 GMT

I would increase the length of the cycle to 5-6 weeks. Start off with 30mg and stay on 30mg. No need to increase towards the end of the cycle, IMO

New Havoc Cycle (sbert99)

Sat, 14 Nov 2009 18:47:45 GMT

This will be my first cycle so any questions/advice/feedback would be welcome...

Pre: 1 week
AI Cycle Support

Cycle: 4 weeks
RPN Havoc 20/30/30/40
AI Cycle Support
Taurine 5g per day (if needed)

PCT: weeks 1-4
I Force Nutrition Reversitol 3/2/2/1
AI Cycle Support (until tub is empty)
Creatine Monohydrate 5g per day

PCT: weeks 5-8 (as per www.octpct.com)
Activate Xtreme 2 Caps am, 2 Caps pm
6 oxo (400/300/200/100)
Creatine Monohydrate 5g per day

May chuck in some additional I3C during PCT. Will be taking ZMA & Multi Vit throughout.

My aim is the grow. Diet is clean at 3500kcal (may increase) with plenty of EFA, and training is heavy and consistent... 32yrs 6ft 185lb 15% bf. I have been searching the world of google to locate a SERM. Found a few places but as yet have not taken the gamble. Hesitant to start cycle without a SERM for back up.

Like I said this is will be my first cycle so any questions/advice/feedback would be welcome...