http://www.muscletalk.co.uk/(c) MuscleTalk Bodybuilding Forum30 not to sure if i fancy the dbol again, would sooner run a different cycle, any ideas? http://www.muscletalk.co.uk/fb.ashx?m=3692283Tue, 17 Nov 2009 18:13:37 GMT cheers guys, looking like the same cycle again then. any solutions to spots on back other than sunbeds? http://www.muscletalk.co.uk/fb.ashx?m=3691612Tue, 17 Nov 2009 10:47:32 GMT <br> Same cycle again and upp the cals to accomodate for the extra weight gain. http://www.muscletalk.co.uk/fb.ashx?m=3691498Tue, 17 Nov 2009 09:46:23 GMT the only side effect ive had from this cycle is spots on my shoulders, is there any meds similar to test e that may not give me spots, i know its abit stupid but they p*ss me off haha  http://www.muscletalk.co.uk/fb.ashx?m=3691392Tue, 17 Nov 2009 08:06:40 GMT <blockquote class="quote"><i>dazc</i><br> <br> <br> as above, stick with the same dose and meds untill they dont work. <br> &nbsp; <br> ideally, time off is as long as possible, and at least as long as the cycle and pct combined <br> <br> is&nbsp;there much fat or water&nbsp;with the gains, as thats a huge amount of weight to gain!&nbsp; <br> </blockquote> <br> <br> x 2 <br> &nbsp; <br> You could change the dbol to tbol at 60-80mg EW instead which would not give you as much bloat. <br> http://www.muscletalk.co.uk/fb.ashx?m=3691353Tue, 17 Nov 2009 06:27:08 GMT I'd try the same cycle again if you were happy with your gains no need to increase dosage at this stage http://www.muscletalk.co.uk/fb.ashx?m=3691296Tue, 17 Nov 2009 00:31:51 GMT <blockquote class="quote"><i></i><br>would kno one recomend moving onto different meds?&nbsp;&nbsp; </blockquote> <br> &nbsp; <br> No you have only done one cylce mate what would moving onto different meds achieve? <br> http://www.muscletalk.co.uk/fb.ashx?m=3691223Mon, 16 Nov 2009 23:19:45 GMT there probably is abit of fat and water gains yeah, but ive been training 6 days a week and hard. probably over done it bcoz i kno u shudnt train this much.  <br> <br> would kno one recomend moving onto different meds? <br> http://www.muscletalk.co.uk/fb.ashx?m=3691141Mon, 16 Nov 2009 22:20:45 GMT as above, stick with the same dose and meds untill they dont work. <br> &nbsp; <br> ideally, time off is as long as possible, and at least as long as the cycle and pct combined <br> <br> is&nbsp;there much fat or water&nbsp;with the gains, as thats a huge amount of weight to gain!&nbsp; <br> http://www.muscletalk.co.uk/fb.ashx?m=3690945Mon, 16 Nov 2009 20:43:08 GMT i recently asked a similar question and the response i got echos what has been said above. my own reading has also supported this too, so id go with what westy says here, sounds like good gen. <br> http://www.muscletalk.co.uk/fb.ashx?m=3690937Mon, 16 Nov 2009 20:40:03 GMT Ideally time off should be <br> <br> time on + pct, so a total 17 weeks off. <br> <br> As for your next cycle, do the same again you gained well off it first time, you won't gain as much again, but you don't wanna start up the dose and making complicated too soon. <br> http://www.muscletalk.co.uk/fb.ashx?m=3690855Mon, 16 Nov 2009 19:53:41 GMT at the end of first cycle.  <br> 1-4 wk dbol 30mg ED  <br> 1-12 wk testE 500mg EW.  <br> i have nolva for pct.  <br> <br> i went from 12st 9 to a good 14st 10, not 100% extreme perfect diet but its been a good.   <br> <br> how long should i take off the gear before i move onto something else?  <br> and what cycle would be good now? still want to gain more size but maybe become more ripped through aswell.  <br> <br> <br> any help on this will be top! <br> <br> <br> nice one <br> http://www.muscletalk.co.uk/fb.ashx?m=3690725Mon, 16 Nov 2009 18:33:28 GMT