sd on low carb diet?

anybody been game enough to give this a blast??? I'm fooking tempted lol
 
I know everybody says sd is 'carb hungry n sh1t' but is it really???? There's plenty of people (mainly american forums granted) that have run sd, dbol and test cycles on a keto diet so surely if your eating enough protein couldn't decent gains be achieved??
 
I'm currently trying to lose alot of fat gained over the past 6mths due to not training, would running a lose dose of say 10mg -15mg a day for 3wks help me harden up abit while losing the fat??? I haven't lost that much muscle mass due to my injury just put on the fat around the stomach and chest (moobs r' us) lol just to note, I've used sd in the past and know the drill with regards to supps, diet and pct... and when I say on a low carb diet I mean on 80-100grms of complex carbs a day.
 
any suggestions on this would be greatly appreciated, thanks
 
 

i've read threads that suggest this too - i've not tried it but any outcome from a cycle is training & diet dependent
 
if you do end up suffering with sides due to low carbs will you be prepared to up them to finish the cycle? if so give it a go & keep us informed of your progress

Jack About


i've read threads that suggest this too - i've not tried it but any outcome from a cycle is training & diet dependent

if you do end up suffering with sides due to low carbs will you be prepared to up them to finish the cycle? if so give it a go & keep us informed of your progress

 
by sides do you mean lethargy? if so I'm prepared just to stick it out, without upping the carbs, I'm not working at present so could squeeze a nap or 2 in during the day if needed lol   I think I will give it a go, but there's bound to be someone on here that has give it a go or at least know's someone who has.

the point is different..
 
sd is a potent mass builder.
you don't need to use an high card protocol like 50-30-20, because even a middle in carb 30-50-20 works well (even better for someone like me) if you want put some solid mass, but if you want to cut why use sd?
 
you have far better choice...
cut is 99% diet, in top of that you can choose another compound for retain as much strength as possible but pick sd will not bring you to the next level of cutting.

because I have it there lol I know it's not a ph used for cutting as such but why not??? I'm just busy at the mo but when I get home I'll do myself up a diet and post it up see what you guys think.

You can use what ever sort of diet you want as far as I am concerned just ensuring your calorie goals are met and that protein is high to make use of the increased protein synthesis.

here's the diet I'm planning on doing -
 
Normal Day

7.00am coffee x 2, omega 3, multi vit, and separate vit b, 50g unflavoured whey in water.
9.15am 5mile walk with dogs
10.15am 4eggs(2yolks) and 2 krisprolls/2 ryvita
1.30pm chicken breast with cous cous,peppers and onion
4.30pm tin of tuna with balsmati rice, and tomato 
7.30pm chicken breast with lettuce and tomato 
8.15pm 5mile walk with dogs
9.30pm 50g whey in water
12.00am 50g casein with 200ml of milk and 200ml of water


Gym day 3 days a week mon/wed/fri

7.00am coffee x 2, omega 3, multi vit, and separate vit b, 50g unflavoured whey in water.
8.15am 50grms of oats with milk
9.45am gym
11.00am 50grms whey in water
1.00pm 4eggs(2yolks) and 2 krisprolls/2 ryvita
3.30pm chicken breast with cous cous/balsmati rice,peppers and onion
6.00pm tin of tuna with balsmati rice, and tomato 
8.30pm chicken breast with lettuce and tomato 
9.00pm 5mile walk with dogs
10.00pm 50g whey in water
12.00am 50g casein with 200ml of milk and 200ml of water

I wouldnt use SD....personaly
two reasons..........
you wont loose much bodyfat in 3-4 weeks which is a typical superdrol cycle
You hold water on superdrol......in our gym we call it Bloatdrol, even though its not sposed to cause anywater weight it did for me and all my friends. so for me itl be difficult to guage the effectivenes of the cut with water retention there.
 
Oxavar
Epistane
Hdrol
Winny
Anavar
 
They are perfect cutting aas in my book, hard look with little lethargy.
 
However try it if you want!!!!!! whats the worst that could happen.
 
Maz
 

exactly.....what is the worst that can happen??? That's why I was thinking of giving it a go lol 

The 'carb hungry' thing is bollocks, or if it's not bollocks it certainly doesn't apply if you're doing a low carb diet because the whole point of a low carb diet is that your body ceases to use gylcogen for energy when it goes into ketosis.
 
Anyway regardless of whether the above analysis is correct or not, I have just finished 3 weeks of SD while cutting and I got on absolutely fine. Felt far better on it this time than when I was bulking with it.

CitizenKane


The 'carb hungry' thing is bollocks, or if it's not bollocks it certainly doesn't apply if you're doing a low carb diet because the whole point of a low carb diet is that your body ceases to use gylcogen for energy when it goes into ketosis.

Anyway regardless of whether the above analysis is correct or not, I have just finished 3 weeks of SD while cutting and I got on absolutely fine. Felt far better on it this time than when I was bulking with it.

 
this is more of what I wanted to hear ck lol what do you think of the diet I'm on though for giving it a go? If I do I'll probably go 10/20/20mg a day on the sd I did this same split while bulking last year and had no sides either.

Would be inclined to do 20mg the first week too.
 
I believe a lot of the water retention suggestion can be combatted with good vitamin c and high water intake and would almost certainly be less when carbs are not being shovelled.
 
I would not personally use SD for a cut but see no harm in running low carb if looking to increase the lean nature of gains.
 
 

Do IT bro and let us no how you get on
An aswome cutting cycle would be
6 weeks
first 3 weeks stano drol last 3 weeks stanodrol/SD stack......
 
Or 5 weeks
Pro-one  90/90/90/90/90
SD                     20/20/20
 
The pro-one would help hith any lethargy too :)
 
Maz

Joe30

this is more of what I wanted to hear ck lol what do you think of the diet I'm on though for giving it a go? If I do I'll probably go 10/20/20mg a day on the sd I did this same split while bulking last year and had no sides either.

 
How much carbs are you eating in that diet? When I did it I was (and still am) doing keto. So zero carbs (except targeted around training). So the point I'm making I guess is that if you eat close to zero carbs and you go into ketosis, your body stops using glycogen for energy, so therefore carb sensitivity is taken out of the equation so the 'carb hungry' aspect of SD (if such a thing exists) is negated. If you are still eating some carbs you may find you are not in ketosis. I imagine it would still be fine, but I have only done it while eating zero carbs so I couldn't say.

CitizenKane

Joe30

this is more of what I wanted to hear ck lol what do you think of the diet I'm on though for giving it a go? If I do I'll probably go 10/20/20mg a day on the sd I did this same split while bulking last year and had no sides either.

How much carbs are you eating in that diet? When I did it I was (and still am) doing keto. So zero carbs (except targeted around training). So the point I'm making I guess is that if you eat close to zero carbs and you go into ketosis, your body stops using glycogen for energy, so therefore carb sensitivity is taken out of the equation so the 'carb hungry' aspect of SD (if such a thing exists) is negated. If you are still eating some carbs you may find you are not in ketosis. I imagine it would still be fine, but I have only done it while eating zero carbs so I couldn't say.

on non training days around 100 and training days around 130 due to the oats before gym.

jw390898


Would be inclined to do 20mg the first week too.

I believe a lot of the water retention suggestion can be combatted with good vitamin c and high water intake and would almost certainly be less when carbs are not being shovelled.

I would not personally use SD for a cut but see no harm in running low carb if looking to increase the lean nature of gains.
 

water intake would be high that's a given will add in vitamin c as well if decide to do it 

just thinking actually 100-130 carbs a day not that 'low' :) maybe I should cut out the rice???????

I was gna say get rid of the rice and cous cous and have extra veg

Joe30


just thinking actually 100-130 carbs a day not that 'low' :) maybe I should cut out the rice???????

 
Depending on the person, theoretically you can get into keto eating 75-100g carbs. But if keto is your intention then it would be far better to aim for less carbs than more, because veg and carbs from whey and things like that all add up. If you are going to cut out those carbs, I would also up fat intake.

Maztrikz

You hold water on superdrol......in our gym we call it Bloatdrol, even though its not sposed to cause anywater weight it did for me and all my friends. so for me itl be difficult to guage the effectivenes of the cut with water retention there.

 
Really? I was always under the impression that SD was a 'dry' compound, hence why so many people experience sore joints from it. I certainly never noticed any bloat or water retention from it!