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2009/04/12 01:32:55 (permalink)

think i over did it on the nytol

hey guys
 
Have tkaen too many nytol i think. around 6. I was just trying to forcr mysel f to sleep. Nothing untoward just trying to get back into a rhythm.
 
feeling very jittery and have elevated heart rate, + feeling a bit panicky
 
will i be okay, or this something bad?

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    teapot
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    Re:think i over did it on the nytol 2009/04/12 01:40:04 (permalink)
    what mg are they

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    Re:think i over did it on the nytol 2009/04/12 01:42:08 (permalink)
    50mg

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    Re:think i over did it on the nytol 2009/04/12 01:42:26 (permalink)
    Mate just a quick Google shows someone who took only 4 times the recommended dose and had a very bad reaction to it, death obviously being a canny bad reaction!

    You still in S.E Asia? Get to Hospital, call a Doctor but as an immediate action get plenty of water down your neck and try and chill out as much as possible. Stay warm but seek medical attention NOW.

    It's obvious something's up by the way you've wrote this post, go now mate.
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    Re:think i over did it on the nytol 2009/04/12 01:43:20 (permalink)
    okay gonna go to hospital

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    Re:think i over did it on the nytol 2009/04/12 01:44:11 (permalink)
    Good mate, keep us updated.
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    Re:think i over did it on the nytol 2009/04/12 01:45:17 (permalink)
    You're typing like TT so this must be bad!

    According to Wiki, it would be very difficult to OD on Nytol and do harm unless you were to really go at it with the aim of ODing.

    You'll probably twitch to fcuk for a couple of hours and then crash out.

    Have you drank any alcohol?

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    Re:think i over did it on the nytol 2009/04/12 01:46:17 (permalink)

    Taking more than the recommended amount can be dangerous but a technical overdose (taking above the recommended dose, but not more than one can biologically handle) of this medication will not occur without intentionally trying to overdose (read: taking entire boxes or bottles) unless the person in question is a child, underweight or sensitive to the medication.


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    Re:think i over did it on the nytol 2009/04/12 01:48:58 (permalink)
    Don't put too much faith in Wikipedia mate, especially for medical issues!

    There's this story which I would take over Wiki anyday...

    A jet-lagged engineer died in a hotel room after overdosing on sleeping pills, an inquest heard on Wednesday.

    Police initially thought Dean Dagnan, 41, had been murdered because his head and body were covered in cuts and bruises.

    But a pathologist found the father of three had taken four times the recommended dose of the sleeping aid Nytol, which caused him to thrash around the room.

    Mr Dagan called his wife at home in Great Casterton, Lincolnshire, complaining of insomnia the night before he died.

    He had been working in China for three weeks and returned on September 23 to stay at a hotel in Paddington, West London.

    'The following morning hotel staff found entry to the room difficult,' said coroner's officer Terry Lovegrove.

    'There was a body on the floor behind the door.' Paramedics tried to resuscitate Mr Dagan but he was already dead, Westminster coroner's court heard.

    Police found several empty packets of Nytol – an over-the-counter antihistamine – but also saw a broken electric fan, injuries on Mr Dagnan's body and blood on the wall.

    Foul play was ruled out after an autopsy revealed he had died from the overdose, a blocked airway and choking on his own vomit.

    Recording a verdict of death by misadventure, coroner Dr Paul Knapman said: 'I don't think it's a deliberate overdose – I just think it's a mistake. He was probably exhausted.'

    SOURCE: http://www.metro.co.uk/news/article....&in_page_id=34

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    Re:think i over did it on the nytol 2009/04/12 01:50:19 (permalink)
    I think you'll be alright, just chill. 100mg doesn't have that much of an affect on me so I doubt if 300 is going to kill you. You'll prob feel pretty groggy when you wake up mind
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    Re:think i over did it on the nytol 2009/04/12 01:52:18 (permalink)
    Go to the hospital if you feel you must, and bring the bottle/packet of Nytol with you.

    I'm quite sure you'll be OK though. I don't know why, it's just a feeling.

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    Re:think i over did it on the nytol 2009/04/12 02:01:20 (permalink)
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    Don't put too much faith in Wikipedia mate, especially for medical issues!

    There's this story which I would take over Wiki anyday...

    A jet-lagged engineer died in a hotel room after overdosing on sleeping pills, an inquest heard on Wednesday.

    Police initially thought Dean Dagnan, 41, had been murdered because his head and body were covered in cuts and bruises.

    But a pathologist found the father of three had taken four times the recommended dose of the sleeping aid Nytol, which caused him to thrash around the room.

    Mr Dagan called his wife at home in Great Casterton, Lincolnshire, complaining of insomnia the night before he died.

    He had been working in China for three weeks and returned on September 23 to stay at a hotel in Paddington, West London.

    'The following morning hotel staff found entry to the room difficult,' said coroner's officer Terry Lovegrove.

    'There was a body on the floor behind the door.' Paramedics tried to resuscitate Mr Dagan but he was already dead, Westminster coroner's court heard.

    Police found several empty packets of Nytol – an over-the-counter antihistamine – but also saw a broken electric fan, injuries on Mr Dagnan's body and blood on the wall.

    Foul play was ruled out after an autopsy revealed he had died from the overdose, a blocked airway and choking on his own vomit.

    Recording a verdict of death by misadventure, coroner Dr Paul Knapman said: 'I don't think it's a deliberate overdose – I just think it's a mistake. He was probably exhausted.'

    SOURCE: http://www.metro.co.uk/news/article....&in_page_id=34


    LOL you did the exact same Google search as me, that was top link!
     
    Nytol is a mild med- 6 tabs isn't a technical overdose, diphenhydramine poisoning would require a much. much greater amount I'm sure- but as a disclaimer, if in doubt then go the hospital to be sure.

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    Re:think i over did it on the nytol 2009/04/12 03:50:55 (permalink)
    A mega dose of inositol is better IMO.  One of the most abundant nutrients in the human body, it induces deep sleep (in a large enough dose say 5g or so), improves mood, and cleanses the colon (which also makes you feel good)....
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    Re:think i over did it on the nytol 2009/04/12 06:10:01 (permalink)
    Diphenhydramine is a ****ty drug IMO, not suprised you feel bad after 300mg. It's a fair amount over the 100mg max recommend invidivual dose, but you can also take upto 300mg in a day for allergy purposes, so unless you have underlying heart problems or asthma I wouldn't be too concerned. You'll probably just feel like sh1t for a while because it has a longish half life.

    A testament to it's crappiness as a sleeping aid are that you've took 300mg and are jittery as opposed to in a deep sleep...
    post edited by Paracelsus - 2009/04/12 06:12:04
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    Re:think i over did it on the nytol 2009/04/12 07:57:52 (permalink)
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    Re:think i over did it on the nytol 2009/04/12 08:26:12 (permalink)
     
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    He's probably sleeping it off.
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    Re:think i over did it on the nytol 2009/04/12 11:21:51 (permalink)
    Mental side effects are very common with diphenhydramine. Strong feelings of anxiety, and even hallucinations, are not unusual

    I hate the stuff, as I experience the above!

    That said, fatal overdose is almost unheard of, even at doses far higher than what T Dawg took

    Hospital was the wisest course of action, but I think that the effects of this will be nothing more than a drug-induced panic attack

    Filthy drug if you ask me

    Hope you're feeling ok today mate


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    Re:think i over did it on the nytol 2009/04/12 11:25:24 (permalink)
    Yohimbe
    A mega dose of inositol is better IMO.  One of the most abundant nutrients in the human body, it induces deep sleep (in a large enough dose say 5g or so), improves mood, and cleanses the colon (which also makes you feel good)....

    What tradenames/products does this come in mate? 

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    Re:think i over did it on the nytol 2009/04/12 11:52:25 (permalink)
    I was a twat and did 6 the other night after a bottle of vodka and I'm still here. I did feel a bit spaced out the next day mind when i awoke at 3pm

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    Re:think i over did it on the nytol 2009/04/12 13:46:14 (permalink)
    Alright fella's, really sorry for the drama.

    Thanks for the concern.

    What a t1t eh?

    I've been struggling to get back into a proper sleep pattern since I got back from Asia which was over 3 weeks ago. Not yet having snagged a full time job yet hasn't help, and despite my best efforts to mentally and physically stimulate myself throughout the day, I find myself not overly tired in the evening and unable to sleep until 4am-5am.

    As for diphenhydramine, what a useless piece of sh1t!.

    I'd never used it before, I've had good success with melatonin in the past and on occasion I've also used the benzodrines valium and xanax (very occasionly mind, and only in the most neccessary circumstances, as these are highly addictive), but neither were available. I had a rummage through my med cabinet and found a full packet of nytol. I don't remember ever buying it, but thought - hey I'll give it a go.

    Read the label, said take one. I reasoned at my bodyweight, fitness level and mentally alert state, that two would be required for me.
     
    Hour later - no tiredness, still fully alert. I take two more and continue to read a book.

    45 mins later - Becoming increasingly restless, I can no longer concentrate on my book, I try and watch TV, I take two more. I am annoyed that this drug is giving me paradoxical symptoms.
     
    15 mins later - Now cannot lay down or sit still, begin pacing around bedroom.
     
    15 mins later - getting increasingly agitated, heart race is increasing and hands are shaking like a parkinsons patient, I force myself to lie down and try and induce a sleep state.
     
    5 mins later - I am panicking, feeling mild chest pains and nausea. I log onto mt and struggle to write a coherent message asking for advice. Read daz's post and drive to hospital, the thought of death concerns me.

    I spent the next 4 hours in a&e. Plenty of drunk people with various amounts of blood pouring out their faces accompany me. Unlike me, they seem to be in high spirits.
    For a moment I wonder if I have mistakingly walked into a doctors and nurses themed party. A drunk man being violently restrained by two police causes me to re-evaluate my conclusion.

    Have ECG scan and blood work done. First 2.5 hours I am very agitated, keep getting up off the gurney and walking around. I fear I will have a heart attack or slip into a coma and that If I fall asleep I will not wake up again, so summon every ounce of adrenaline I have and attempt to keep myself alert. Nurse tells me off for getting up and wandering about, and says lay down and try to relax. I do as she says.

    Once duty doctor finally gets round to seeing me, 2.5 hours after I arrive, says heart and blood work are okay and that the drug would have reached peak plasma concentration a half-hour ago, and that If anything was gonning to happen it would have happened by now.

    I am somewhat relieved.

    Stay for another hour and a half, and jitters and agitation starts diminishing. I get given the all clear and drive home.
    Get in at half-five, and am asleep by six. Woke up today at half-twelve, feeling okay. 

    Well there we have it.

    Very much a mountain over a molehill.
     
    However, just goes to show the effects of panic and anxiety. I would guess my symptoms were more of a result of said panic attack than of the diphenhydramine dosage. As soon as I got the chest pains, and with both grand-fathers having suffered from heart attack plus my own father having just had surgery to correct an irregular heart beat, I convinced myself something was wrong.

    I dunno though maybe the panic attack and the subsequent adrenal response and heart rate may have cleared the drug from my system quicker. Who knows.

    Anyways sorry to ramble on, feel a bit embarrased over the whole thing and hope to get myself sorted into a routine soon where I wont be be needing sleep aids.

    Thanks for the concern once again guys.

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