thoughts on this course?

Just want peoples experienced opinion on this course, my mates just finished it and he looks brilliant off it, im thinking about doing it but would like to get more information off some of the lads in here because most of you are clued up to death u might be able to tell me any downsides to it. he said the only sides hes had off it is night sweats and abit of insomnia
 
Its 1.5mil of tren and 1 mil of test rapid on a monday
then 1.5 mil of tren and 1 mil of sus on a thursday
1 tamoxifen everyday
when uve finished the course he has a jab of HCG every Mon/Wed/Fri (cant remember how long after the course he starts this like but i can find out) 
 
anyone ever been on a course like this? ok for a beginners course dya think? i suffer from abit of gyno so i would probably run armidex with it personally, is the HCG needed after this dya think?
 

briankelly1986


why tren for a first cycle?what strength is it also?
what strength is your test rapid?
i wouldn't say that its a beginner course fella,most certainly wasn't my first cycle,although i have done a test e/tren e cycle for 16 weeks???
how long are you planning on running a cycle?you've not mentioned?
Whats your diet/training like?how long you been training???
Just cos your mate has done well from a cycle like this i don't know history let alone your mates?
 
Just want peoples experienced opinion on this course, my mates just finished it and he looks brilliant off it, im thinking about doing it but would like to get more information off some of the lads in here because most of you are clued up to death u might be able to tell me any downsides to it. he said the only sides hes had off it is night sweats and abit of insomnia

Its 1.5mil of tren and 1 mil of test rapid on a monday
then 1.5 mil of tren and 1 mil of sus on a thursday
1 tamoxifen everyday
when uve finished the course he has a jab of HCG every Mon/Wed/Fri (cant remember how long after the course he starts this like but i can find out) 

anyone ever been on a course like this? ok for a beginners course dya think? i suffer from abit of gyno so i would probably run armidex with it personally, is the HCG needed after this dya think?

3 ml of tren is likely to be 600mg ew
dont think tren is a good med to take first cycle!
simple test cycle to test the water..

Alright mate, yer sorry was abit vague that post
 
hes on a twelve week one, i was just thinking about doing it for 10 weeks
 
ive been training for about 7 years now, diets not bad, could be better but work restricts me from eating at the right times. ive been toying with the idea of roids for about 3 years now, but the thought of getting more gyno scares me so i always put it off
 
im 12.5 stone 5'10
 
im defo going on the Juice i dont care, i know alot of you try and convince people to get me diet sorted first but i genuinely have tried just dieting, i will get me diet sorted aswel anyway while im on a course but i find it so hard to gain so i want that extra help from the juice
 
i like the sound of tren, ive been looking at it and it just sounds quality
 
any advice for a 1st time course with tren? dont really want to run Test on its own
 
i'm getting some armidex next week, how would i take that with the course?

Not here to preach to you fella,just give you my opinion.
Run the test for 12weeks mate,run the tren for 10(makes PCT easier)
Adex you'll need to play about with full-,half a tab per day should suffice,if your happy(gyno under control)half eod.(buy tablet splitter from boots chemist)Good luck!!!

Sharp intake of breath!

Tren as a first cycle not good mojo.

Test is the best first cycle, you get a lot of positive side effects from test, if you get gyno it's easy to counteract and youll gain the most if your diet and training is nailed.

You say you struggle with the diet but quite frankly without the cals your growth will be stunted, there should be as much dedication towards the diet as there is towards the training, if your not going to take it seriously then why bother taking it?

Sounds like from your op your not going to take any advice tho, so for your own sake look into progesterone gyno, letro to reduce gyno and arimidex or aromasin.

Research pct and make sure you don't start the tren course until you have your ai meds to hand.

Minger

The downsides to tren is that it makes you feel like crap. It's good but it's an advanced steroid and I'd avoid it it till you're much more experienced. 
 
If you're fixated on just a one steroid only cycle for your first course then ditch the tren and switch to a testosterone - not only are the gains great but you'll also feel great within yourself due to the many positives test has upon the body....with tren you'll see results but as I said you'll feel like crap, you wont sleep properly and the sides are much harder to treat. 
 

diets not bad, could be better but work restricts me from eating at the right times.

Will have to get this sorted else a waste of time.
 

i suffer from abit of gyno so i would probably run armidex with it personall

 
How do you know this if its your first time?
 
 

i know alot of you try and convince people to get me diet sorted first but i genuinely have tried just dieting, i will get me diet sorted aswel anyway while im on a course but i find it so hard to gain so i want that extra help from the juice

 
 
Again, you must get it sorted, do some research and you will understand how much diet is important.
 

any advice for a 1st time course with tren? dont really want to run Test on its own

 
Why not? Whats the point in asking for advice then?  You seem as tho your mind`s made up whatever.
 

when uve finished the course he has a jab of HCG every Mon/Wed/Fri (cant remember how long after the course he starts this like but i can find out)

 
Would`nt bother as its wrong, take it during the course not after.
 

im defo going on the Juice i dont care

 
Say`s it all imo, but, have a read of these
http://articles.muscletal...ners-steroids-faq.aspx
http://articles.muscletalk.co.uk/clomid-hcg.aspx
 
 
 
 

Nice one lads, appreciate ur advice
 
youve convinced me to not go on tren! so i will just run test on its own. see if i get any bad sides.
 
dementia i know i suffer from gyno because ive got it (not through juice) and believe me i know how much diet is important! i am still going to eat properly, i just cant eat 6 times a day!(dont tell me its pointless going on the juice if my diet isnt BANG ON because i know its not, i just wont get the FULL benifits, people i know have got brilliant gains of the juice and my diet is alot better than theres, beleive me)
 
i admit i dont understand the PCT meds inside and out but thats why im on here, theres too much jargon that u end up thinking some things are the same, Nolva, clomid, armidex, adex, tamoxifen, letro, HCG. for instance i dont know the difference between Adex (armidex) and Nolva (tamoxifen). i know Adex stops the Aromatisin...doesnt it? i dont know when to take them and how much to take! but as i said, i suffer from gyno so id want to take it as soon as i start the course! once ive finished the course of Test, when and what would i take!?
 
look sorry if ive come accross as a wanker who doesnt have a f*cking clue, but sometimes i get the feeling on here that unless your a f*cking chemist on hpeople just think your diving straight into it, and belive me im not, how much did most of u on here actually know about steroids before u took them, because im telling you now, most of the nob heads in our gym who are on them havnt got a f*cking clue, there just basically taking anything that gets offered to them, me mates taking HCG (which he orignally called HTC, which is a f*cking phone) and hes injecting every other day, i dont even think he knows why?? he thinks its to kick off his natural testosterone, but thats not what HCG is for is it???