have to question the motives for making out something is safe when they hsve the user name melanotan. Wether or not thats the intention thats how they read to me. Sure, there is no proof that the OP's problems ARE caused by MT, but noon can deny there are side effects that are suffered to some degree by almost all users.
As i said before, i used once, but the side effects are such that its foolish to think this peptide is just giving you a nice tan. just the noticable side effects are quite noticable, and can be very bad, so who knows what its possibly doint thats not noticable. sure other meds we use have sides, but long and short term effects of steroids are pretty well known and understood. NOONE can say that for MT2. and imo it will never come close to being licenced.
I wear my bias prominently here so that those I communicate with know where I stand. Would people prefer that I hide my involvement surrounding these peptide drugs and just express myself as though I don't have a particular bias? I seriously doubt it
If we step back from the focus of this current discussion (usage of melanotan II) and examine this topic from a more objective point of view we can recognize that the issue at the heart of this thread is actually much bigger than anything having to do specifically with melanotan II. The heart of the issue is the usage of frequently unregulated, relatively poorly sourced, and sometimes unlicensed drugs and what it means to use these types of drugs. The simple fact to the matter is that it is perfectly normal for folks to develop health issues during their lives almost regardless of what they do (or don't do) relative to maintaining their health or relative to the risks to their health they take in their daily activities. Genes play a massive role in this. Some folks are just genetically predisposed to develop health issues in their life and in many cases the ultimate results of these genetic predispositions are unavoidable. So how does all of that relate to using these types of drugs? Well if during the course of a given regimen of drug use some previously unrecognized health issue develops we are left wondering what if any role the usage of that drug has played in the development of the issue? This is why companies are obliged to spend billions of dollars in clinical trials precisely to overcome this very issue. It is only with a diligent scientific method and sufficient time across large cohorts of trial subjects are we able to fully establish what if any deleterious health effects stem from usage of a drug and what efficacy the drug has for a given indication. I actually expressed this problem last year in response to a British Medical Journal article about the potential risks of usage of the melanotan peptides. The BMJ published my concerns here: http://www.bmj.com/cgi/.../338/feb17_2/b566#209575
So where does that leave individuals concerned about health risks relative to using these types of drugs?
1. Don't use any drug and just go all natural. If health issues develop you'll know that something other than a drug was at the heart of any health issue that you develop.
2. Limit yourself to using only fully licensed, fully regulated drugs and extremely well sourced (fully legal) drugs. At least you'll have a high degree of confidence that the effects and side effects of these drugs are generally going to be well known (I say generally because it does happen that regulatory agencies will consider a drug essentially safe only to determine later on that it in fact is not - think Vioxx).
3. If you're going to use a drug that is either not well regulated or not extremely well sourced or not licensed anywhere then examine the prevalence of usage (100s of people, 1000s? , 10s of thousands, etc?) and what are the predominantly reported effects and side effects as well as reported issues relative to the drug and given sources for the drug. Are there fairly well established patterns for a given drug or drug source? What are they? Based upon these patterns are you willing to put confidence in the drug and/or source to the point of potentially risking your health over it?
These are very serious considerations. This is painfully obvious in the forum I operate about these peptides where one is repeatedly visually bashed with warnings about their usage with direct links to Governmental health agencies' concerns and counsels.
I recognize that Howmuch has a health issue however what I would like to understand (and feel that everyone should try to understand) is what are the potential factors leading up to his condition that may have played a role or definitely played a role. There are certain drugs and certain preexisting health issues that are known to cause CSR. I want to know if Howmuch may have been affected by these sorts of potential causative factors.
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