What to use with t3?

The Truth


test e 250 a week 2 weeks later, t3 50 a day for rest of cycle, clen cycled 2 weeks on 2 weeks off, on off weeks take eph. It don't sound like fun but it will get you ripped. Or take some tren and test for 12 weeks with winstrol at the end as this will get you ripped and increase muscle size if you can handle the sides.

 
Tbol seems the best option for me to stack with t3 as im prone to hairloss and the likes of test/winny will speed up the process mate.

Sawdust does make a valid point. Just to confirm if anyone is wondering i dont have alot of posts and all that, but im not a beginner to training or steriods.

Sound mate, I just don't like the way statements like that are banded about, sets people up for disappointment, I like to try and maintain an element of realism when it comes to results and telling people wHat to expect.

Long as you know the score mate, good luck with the cycle, tbol alone at 60-80mg a day should be fine, I know a few lads who really rate tbol as a standalone both online and personally. Should serve you well.

sos


Sawdust does make a valid point. Just to confirm if anyone is wondering i dont have alot of posts and all that, but im not a beginner to training or steriods.

 
I am sorry but I automatically presume people have there diet and training nailed before thinking about taking drugs. Tren will get you ripped and saying otherwise (as long as your diet and training is in place ) is nonsense, its a real body changing drug. And most people take clen and t3 together as this works better.
 
Just a snip of info
 
  Trenbolone is also a highly androgenic hormone, when compared with testosterone, which has an androgenic ratio of 100; trenbolones androgenic ratio is an astonishing 500. Highly androgenic steroids are appreciated for the effects they have on strength as well as changing the estrogen/androgen ratio, thus reducing water and under the skin. As if the report on trenbolone was not good enough, it gets better; Trenbolone is extraordinarily good as a fat loss agent. One reason for this is its powerful effect on nutrient partitioning (9). It is a little known fact is that androgen receptors are found in fat cells as well as muscle cells(10), androgens act directly on the A.R in fat cells to affect fat burning.(11) the stronger the androgen binds to the A.R, the higher the lipolytic (fat burning) effect on adipose tissue (fat)(11). Since some steroids even increase the numbers of A.R in muscle and fat (11, 12) this fat loss effect would be amplified with the concurrent use of other compounds, such as testosterone.


This drug shouldn't be taken lightly but saying it will not help you get ripped is a bit silly no?

Sorry lads, i didnt mean to offend any of yous by my post that says im not a beginner i was just saying in general.
 
SAWDUST - Cheers m8, i look forward to running the combo, and i agree on your statement, some dont have a clue and run a cycle with a **** diet and wonder after why they havent gained well and have gained loads of fat.
 
THE TRUTH - i think tren is bad for hair loss so wouldnt be a great choice for me mate. Tried clen gave me bad cramps i tried supplementing to prevent the cramps but to no avial so discontinued use and plan to never use again. I rate eph for appetite suppresion, could maybe add that in if need be. To be fair ive heard the phrase tren will get you ripped before and know what you mean and hear its great for strength too, it may help you get ripped, but doubt it will if your on a **** diet, thats what sawdust meant i think mate.

Yeah I agree, I just stupidly presume people would always be on spot on diet before doing tren,
 
Edit - Respect to sawdust

(i read I think) tren works better for fat Los when run without an aromitising steroid, there's something about oestrogen that interferes with the fat burning properties of tren.

However, it's probably bollox and I have no proof, I agree with sawdust I ran tren on and off most of last year, I didn't get ripped but my diet was aimed at surplus calories for size, if I'd gone the other way with the diet then it would have been very different.

Shape changing, I dunno im not convinced it's a very good steroid but I don't think it's the superman of steroids people make out.

Minger

Ahh fvck it.....


Good luck with the cycle op! Keep us updated on how u get on fella!

Minger - has a point, about the superman comment.
 
Sawdust - dont hold your breath for an update wont be starting tbol t3 combo for few months yet, its for a pre holiday summer cut you see mate. Still got another 2/3 months of bulking yet

Ha fair play mate! All the best either way

cheers bud :)

Tbol will be fine just adjust doses of t3 and maybe tbol as you go.
 
I'd say 60-80 mg Tbol, 50-75 mcg T3. 

a decent androgen.

Keane


Tbol will be fine just adjust doses of t3 and maybe tbol as you go.

I'd say 60-80 mg Tbol, 50-75 mcg T3. 

 
Was planning a 60mg 6 weeker (anymore and i would need another tub and its works out even more expensive than it already is) with 6 weeker of t3 max dose of 100mcg, most likely tapered up and down.

Do yous reckon i could cut with 50mcg without anabolic support? surely 25mcg wont do anything for fat loss really will it so was thinking 50mcg but maybe thats a step too far without anabolics.

Not read thread as about to go to bed but no, need aas when taking t3 unless u want to kiss good buy to muscle as well as fat... 250 test e, wait a few weeks and then the t3, could add clen as well but dont have to. The test should at 250 lean you out as well in my opinion

You'll lose lean mass on hIgher doses of t3 even with aas.


I wouldn't use it off gear, id be more inclined to run dnp without aas than I would t3 tbh, not that I'm recommending you do so, just making a point.

T3 without gear for me is a no-no, at anything above 12.5mcg a day anyway.

For 99% of the population if you are in a calorie deficit you will be catabolic, even without T3.
 
Add in T3 you will be more catabolic, This will then slow down your BMR and you will burn fat at an even slower rate.
 
IME cutting with test is just as effective as cutting with tren, At the end of the day all your really doing is trying to cut fat while maintaining mass, its not really that complicated.
 
At the moment im cutting with a whole cocktail of drugs and tbh im starting to regret not just using between a 500mg-1g of test p/w, Really its all down to diet and a drug to prevent catabolism, Simples :)

Good points made, thanks, ill give it a miss for the moment and will use with tbol when i a cut in a few months time.

A low dosage of T3 assists with protein synthesis.
 
Wrongun!