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test prop clen and t3 cycle 15 January 2013 16:39 (permalink)
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Hi lads I am 23 years old 203lbs about 22% bf looking to lose some fat gain some muscle and just get fitter I have done 3 aas cycle in the past never used t3 or clen but have done lots of researched on both don't really want to hear peoples opinion on weather or not I should use any of the thing listed but would like to hear about your own experiences with them and the best way you think I should  set up my cycle thanks in advance

100mg test eod week 1-12

T3 at 25 mcg/day for a few days, then raise it to 50 then 75 mcg/day

Then back down from week 1-12

the clen I don't really no what dose to use for my first time

Any help on this would be very much appreciated
 
 
 
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    Re:test prop clen and t3 cycle 15 January 2013 18:10 (permalink)
    If your running for 12wks... Be better off sticking with test e or sust... EOD jabs will be a pain for that long.. No need to taper up T3.. Just hit it straight at 50mcg... Personally, I think clen is tosh and not worth the sides.. But each to their own... Iv only used once... Started at 40mcg, upped it by 20mcg everyday till I got to 120mcg then ran it for a week... (that's my tolerance, your could be higher or lower) run for 2 weeks, drop for 2 weeks... But when you start the 2nd cycle.. Go straight to your tolerated dose, don't bother working up again...
     
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      Re:test prop clen and t3 cycle 15 January 2013 18:55 (permalink)
      Yeah the eod jabs will be a pain in the ass figuratively and literally lol, but IL just man
      up but say I start the t3 at 50mcg I would still slowly taper it back down thou wouldnt I?  would 12 weeks on t3 be OK? so on the clen from week 1 I would work up from 40mcg till I get where my body can tolerate it do that till week 2 stop then week 4 start right back at the dose that I could tolerant
       
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        Re:test prop clen and t3 cycle 16 January 2013 19:31 (permalink)
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          Re:test prop clen and t3 cycle 16 January 2013 19:56 (permalink)
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          Personally I don't taper off t3 but that's me... Then again, i pretty much never stop using it. You can do a slow taper though to avoid rebound.

          Week 1 - start 40mcg clen - work up to tolerance eg 120mcg
          Week 2 - 120mcg
          Week 3 - off
          Week 4 - off
          Week 5 - 120mcg
          Week 6 - 120mcg
          Etc...

          Basically cycle it 2 weeks on, 2weeks off... Use the 1st week to establish how much clen you can comfortably used

          I would run a ECA on the 'off' weeks of clen, to help with even more fat loss
           
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            Re:test prop clen and t3 cycle 16 January 2013 20:25 (permalink)
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            Personally I don't taper off t3 but that's me... Then again, i pretty much never stop using it. You can do a slow taper though to avoid rebound.

            Week 1 - start 40mcg clen - work up to tolerance eg 120mcg
            Week 2 - 120mcg
            Week 3 - off
            Week 4 - off
            Week 5 - 120mcg
            Week 6 - 120mcg
            Etc...

            Basically cycle it 2 weeks on, 2weeks off... Use the 1st week to establish how much clen you can comfortably used

            I would run a ECA on the 'off' weeks of clen, to help with even more fat loss

             
            ok will do mate thanks
             
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              Re:test prop clen and t3 cycle 16 January 2013 20:55 (permalink)
              id proably suggest with clen, use first four weeks, then off 4 weeks, then back on last 4 weeks.
               
              i like clen but it did quicklyy reach a point where it lost its effectiveness - and after the break, felt like id never used it before.
               
              100mg test eod? whats reason for that? assuming thatll be propionate ester?
               
              twice a week sus, test e , cyp would be fine - save on inj times and likely pain, and scar tissue ect?
               
              or you have a personal reason for 100mg EOD?
               
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                Re:test prop clen and t3 cycle 16 January 2013 21:30 (permalink)
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                id proably suggest with clen, use first four weeks, then off 4 weeks, then back on last 4 weeks.

                i like clen but it did quicklyy reach a point where it lost its effectiveness - and after the break, felt like id never used it before.

                100mg test eod? whats reason for that? assuming thatll be propionate ester?

                twice a week sus, test e , cyp would be fine - save on inj times and likely pain, and scar tissue ect?

                or you have a personal reason for 100mg EOD?


                is there a specific reason you would do on 4 of 4 then back on the last 4 weeks or just your personal preference?  just curious and if it loses its effectiveness quickly wouldn't it make more sense to use 2 on 2 of in stead of the 4 on 4 of. yes mate its test prop no really reason behind using it in stead of using a longer lasting Easter except the fact you don't hold as much water with prop, but i hear you about it being a blag having to pin every other day but it was cheap lol
                 
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                  Re:test prop clen and t3 cycle 16 January 2013 21:50 (permalink)
                  for me prop EOD makes no sense, more inj means more use of sights, more risk of scar tissues, more time, possibly more pain, and agin possibly more cost.
                   
                  a 250mg test twice weekly would ease things, esp on a 12 week cycle - EOD inj could become an issue ona 12 weeker. roughly 42 inj of test p.
                   
                  the water you hold is most influenced buy diet, carb control and estrogen manegment - test e , cyp, even sus shouldnt affect water retention - esp if the toatal amount of test inj is the same anyway.
                   
                  as for clen, my preferance is 4 on then a break - but its based on my personal experience - 4 weeks if never used before should have an effect all through that time, then 4 weeks of is a significant break to have you starting the last weeks almost from fresh, if you get me?
                  the effect on the second part of clen should mimic the first time use, as 4 weeks is a good break off.
                   
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                    Re:test prop clen and t3 cycle 16 January 2013 22:07 (permalink)
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                    for me prop EOD makes no sense, more inj means more use of sights, more risk of scar tissues, more time, possibly more pain, and agin possibly more cost.

                    a 250mg test twice weekly would ease things, esp on a 12 week cycle - EOD inj could become an issue ona 12 weeker. roughly 42 inj of test p.

                    the water you hold is most influenced buy diet, carb control and estrogen manegment - test e , cyp, even sus shouldnt affect water retention - esp if the toatal amount of test inj is the same anyway.

                    as for clen, my preferance is 4 on then a break - but its based on my personal experience - 4 weeks if never used before should have an effect all through that time, then 4 weeks of is a significant break to have you starting the last weeks almost from fresh, if you get me?
                    the effect on the second part of clen should mimic the first time use, as 4 weeks is a good break off.

                    I may get some test enth to have on hand in case the prop does become to much to cope with i was 1st looking at doing 100mg eod of the prop to kick start the cycle and use test enth to carry it on and yeah i get you about the clen it make more sense i suppose to have the 4 week break as you said it will be like doing the last 4 weeks from fresh thanks for your input mate
                     
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                      Re:test prop clen and t3 cycle 16 January 2013 22:30 (permalink)
                      why do you think test p would be best option?
                       
                      genuine question mate, not trying to catch people out or anything, for all i know test prop may suit you perfectly - but whats that deciding factor over other test ester?
                       
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                        Re:test prop clen and t3 cycle 16 January 2013 22:57 (permalink)
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                        why do you think test p would be best option?

                        genuine question mate, not trying to catch people out or anything, for all i know test prop may suit you perfectly - but whats that deciding factor over other test ester?

                         
                        Just think for me its the fact because of its fast acting ester il feel the difference quicker and because its fast acting il be able to get my normal test back with pct a lot quicker
                         
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