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2008/05/14 20:37:14 (permalink)

11test, info please?

Saw this on Ian's site and basically wondered what behind the chemical jargon is in the product?

I beleive it to a be a testosterone booster, just wondered how good it is?

I've used cissus-drol and beleived it to work well for me, awaiting another delivery from Ian as we speak, but may look to this 11test in the future if it's appealing to me.

I take it you can run this product without PCT afterwards?

What gains have people seen from using it?

If cissus-drol works for me, is it worth sticking to something that I know works or is it worth having a go with this to see if it might work even better?

Your thoughts are ver much appreciated, (thanks Adil in advance lol;) )
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    RE: 11test, info please? 2008/05/14 20:47:58 (permalink)
    I believe it is the same as 11OXO, a weak pro hormone im pretty sure. Dont think it requires PCT unless run a a high dose!
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    RE: 11test, info please? 2008/05/14 20:50:20 (permalink)
    I beleive it to a be a testosterone booster, just wondered how good it is?


    Nope, it's a PH/DS

    I take it you can run this product without PCT afterwards?


    If ran at a proper dose, PCT is needed

    What gains have people seen from using it?


    It's more of a cutting aid really. You won't see much in terms of gains

    Search for a product called 11-oxo (made by ergopharm). 11-test is simply a clone of it. Plenty of 11-oxo logs if you google it

    thanks Adil in advance lol;)


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    RE: 11test, info please? 2008/05/14 20:57:11 (permalink)
    Thanks very much Adil,

    Do't really want to be cutting, so probably give this a miss.

    Cissus-drol gave me some good gains and not ready for another Steroid yet, so will double dose C-drol and see how we go until after my holiday ;)

    Cheers
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    RE: 11test, info please? 2008/05/14 20:57:35 (permalink)
    Thank you for correcting me Adil! lol! I thought Ian said PCT was only necessary if ran a high dose or something? Im probably remembering wrong though! lol
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    RE: 11test, info please? 2008/05/14 21:00:19 (permalink)

    ORIGINAL: Maximise

    Thank you for correcting me Adil! lol! I thought Ian said PCT was only necessary if ran a high dose or something? Im probably remembering wrong though! lol


    I read somewhere that PCT is only required in doses above 3 caps ED I think?

    I could be wrong, hence why I asked here about PCT ;)
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    RE: 11test, info please? 2008/05/14 21:04:07 (permalink)
    That is probably what I read! Cheers Danaj!
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    RE: 11test, info please? 2008/05/14 21:05:51 (permalink)
    If ran an 1 serving ED, I wouldn't think PCT would be required

    If ran at 2 servings ED - it's be best to utilise an OTC PCT at least, IMO

    If ran at 3 servings or more, PCT is required.
    post edited by Adil - 2008/05/14 21:06:30
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    RE: 11test, info please? 2008/05/14 21:07:04 (permalink)
    Cheers for clearing that up Adil ;)

    Regards as ever
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    RE: 11test, info please? 2008/05/14 21:49:38 (permalink)
    with 11 test at 50mg per cap 3 caps is obviously 150mg of active ingredient.
    most advice i have seen on forums and also advice from ergopharm is that pct is unecessary at 225mg ed and under.

    imo 3 caps per day doesnt warrant pct but you could run an otc pct afterwoods if you wanted to.

    deffinantly more of an anticortisol in action at standard doses than a ds/ph, only at high doses would you see typical ds effects.

    i would personally be happy to use it as an anti cortisol through pct at 150mg ed, and also i personally would use it off cycle without pct as i would any other supp.
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    RE: 11test, info please? 2008/05/14 21:52:33 (permalink)
    with 11 test at 50mg per cap 3 caps is obviously 150mg of active ingredient.


    I thought a serving was 100mg?

    EDIT; I keep on getting confused with the other version of 11-test which has 100mg per cap/serving
    post edited by Adil - 2008/05/14 21:54:11
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    RE: 11test, info please? 2008/05/14 22:15:40 (permalink)
    that it explains it then mate

    as i say i wouldnt try and pass it off as cost effective ds/ph but it is a very real alternative to x-lean as an anti cortisol
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    RE: 11test, info please? 2008/05/14 22:19:48 (permalink)
    So how would you use 11Test in PCT Ian?
    post edited by Maximise - 2008/05/14 22:20:40
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    RE: 11test, info please? 2008/05/14 22:20:12 (permalink)
    Have you contacted Fast-action asking why there are two types of 11-test dosed differently? Just curious
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    RE: 11test, info please? 2008/05/14 22:23:59 (permalink)
    Adil - Why do you think that is?
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    RE: 11test, info please? 2008/05/14 22:47:01 (permalink)
    i havnt but from talking to suppliers all that i have come across only supply it in 50mg even though they have copied and pasted information that its 125mg.

    as i say i wouldnt bother stocking more expensive higher dosed versions as imo its a very good anti cortisol but a poor choice in terms of cost to gains if you want to run it at very high dose to get ds like gains.
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    RE: 11test, info please? 2008/08/01 10:13:33 (permalink)
    Any ideas on how this compares as an anti-cortisol to X-Lean? I've been using 6 caps/day X-Lean for a few weeks now, and am reasonably happy in that I've had fairly good fat loss - on my upper waist and legs especially - without seeming to have lost any lean mass or strength.


    Still got another 8-10lbs to lose, though, to bring bf down to mid-teens and was wondering about 11-test as an alternative anti-cortisol. Would really like to up the dose of X-Lean to 10 caps/day as I've heard some very good things about its fat-loss properties as these mega-doses, but the cost is prohibitive for that. What dose would 11-test need to be run at to equate to 6 caps of X-Lean in anti-cortisol efficacy? How about 10 caps?

    I'm hoping this will have some other positive effects besides blocking the effects of cortisol, so wondering if it might be preferable to X-Lean in general (it certainly seems to be cheaper).
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