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2014/10/17 16:32:40 (permalink)

1st cycle ever on Hdrol. Please advice.

So, I'm at the last couple of weeks of my Revolver 25 cycle, and I'm planning my next cycle slowly.
It will be hdrol and I have some questions that came up after my searches, for anyone interested to answer them, so that I can plan my buyings.
 
I'm 37 years, I weight trained from my 15 to 20 years (never got any ph,aas or anything), and after a loooong break, I have started again last year.My current cycle is going great, I have some mediocre gains in weight-muscle and strength, exactly what I was expecting..
 
I want to put on some more size, but not bloated, puffered or drastically quickly.
I'm 1.92m and 105 kg, about 20% body fat.
 
I'm thinking for a 6 week cycle at 100mg hdrol ed.Not starting lower, not tapering, straight from day one.
Tribulus on cycle makes any sense?
Liver support with UDCA 250mg ed, NAC 600mg ed.Is NAC overkill for liver support? Will UDCA be enough?
Garlic capsules if blood pressure.
Nolvadex PCT. I beleive 20/20/10/10 will be ok?
Anything more for pct like DAA or tribulus?
 
Thanks everyone in advance.
 
 
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Re: 1st cycle ever on Hdrol. Please advice. 2014/10/17 17:54:02 (permalink)
Hello mate,
 
HDrol was my first cycle... got some great results from it to be fair. 
Tribulus... i'd leave it to PCT if required, no need IMO for it on cycle.
 
I'm not sure what your liver supports are to be fair, i usually just go for Liv52... keep it simple, you don't need to over complicate anything or go overkill.
 
Blood Pressure, I usually jus take some Hawthorn Berry to keep things simple, i've never tried Garlic Capsules to be fair.
 
PCT is fine.
 
It's a easy enough cycle and yields some great results. I was shut down on one HDrol cycle and that was my only side.. a bit of water retention too.

"Train hard or don't bother training at all!"

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Re: 1st cycle ever on Hdrol. Please advice. 2014/10/17 18:00:54 (permalink)
UDCA/TUDCA is considered from many the best that you can get for liver support (at least that is what I've read).
 
What you think about the hdrol dosage that I'm thinking?
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Re: 1st cycle ever on Hdrol. Please advice. 2014/10/17 18:41:11 (permalink)☄ Helpfulby alekan 2014/10/17 23:06:44
Hdrol.

8 weeka at 75mg (or 100mg if you're experienced)

Liver support - Tudca is king. Nac is cheap, so add. Liv52 is debatable. First two are used by medical professionals.

Loads of water, then some more. That will keep most issues at bay.

Strength will come in week 3, so gives you time to get into your 4x12 training style.

PCT would be better as 40/20/20/10/10/5 at your (our) age as a 4 week PCT is a bit brief. Ensures your test comes back strong.

See my signature link for a day by day log of Halo 75mg.

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Re: 1st cycle ever on Hdrol. Please advice. 2014/10/17 19:18:54 (permalink)
Thanks for your post man.
So, for my first hdrol cycle you suggest 75mg despite my weight.
Ok, maybe I will go that route, will be cheaper also 
 
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Re: 1st cycle ever on Hdrol. Please advice. 2014/10/17 20:05:52 (permalink)☄ Helpfulby alekan 2014/10/17 23:06:46
alekan
Thanks for your post man.
So, for my first hdrol cycle you suggest 75mg despite my weight.
Ok, maybe I will go that route, will be cheaper also 
 




I'd go with 100. And your PCT is probably not sufficient. I recommend 40/20/20/10/10/5/5/5 for Nolva. Tribulus pointless during or after cycle or inbetween cycles.
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Re: 1st cycle ever on Hdrol. Please advice. 2014/10/17 23:07:39 (permalink)
@Ancalagon, 100ed for 6 or 8 weeks?
I'll get some more Nolva.
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Re: 1st cycle ever on Hdrol. Please advice. 2014/10/18 04:11:30 (permalink)
100mgs buddy. 
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Re: 1st cycle ever on Hdrol. Please advice. 2014/10/18 06:46:28 (permalink)
Will go 100, but for 6 or 8 weeks?
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Re: 1st cycle ever on Hdrol. Please advice. 2014/10/18 09:20:27 (permalink)
8 weeks is fine.

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Re: 1st cycle ever on Hdrol. Please advice. 2014/10/18 09:52:25 (permalink)
Thanks everybody, I'm putting together my sh*t slowly, already got nolva...
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Re: 1st cycle ever on Hdrol. Please advice. 2014/10/18 11:37:00 (permalink)
Well you're not a kid (lol) so the decisions yours,let sides dictate. But also, for a first cycyle 6 weeks is fine.
I too,like Ancalagon, run longer thanmost,but choose to do so knowingly.
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Re: 1st cycle ever on Hdrol. Please advice. 2014/10/18 13:16:20 (permalink)
Yeap, I'm leaning to 6 weeks for 1st cycle and see how it goes for future reference.
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Re: 1st cycle ever on Hdrol. Please advice. 2014/10/18 18:41:42 (permalink)
Good call
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Re: 1st cycle ever on Hdrol. Please advice. 2014/10/18 20:11:32 (permalink)
I've got 4 tubs of Halo (400 capsules), enough for 2 cycles of 100mg so will be running it solo again at least twice. I ran it at 75mg and was side free, so will be doing 100mg next time. I am 38, 6ft+, 250lb. 100mg should sit nicely.

Would be great to follow your log at 100mg

What does your diet/cals look like?
What training will you be doing?
Are you approaching this as a lean bulk (focus on muscle gain as opposed to fat loss)?

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Re: 1st cycle ever on Hdrol. Please advice. 2014/10/19 06:35:04 (permalink)
TBH, I don't track calories. I eat a good full oats/honey/milk breakfast, BCAA before workout, whey+maltodextrine immediately after workout,then eat 3-4 whole eggs or 1 250gr lean beef burger + half a cauliflower, lunch whatever I have cooked for the whole family (I'm  unemployed -things in Greece are sh*it- and I'm housekeeping), be it pasta,beans,chicken,green veggies, whatever is on the weekly menu, afternoon fruits and nuts, night lunch leftovers or tuna steaks. I'm throwing 3-4 whey shakes between meals and I hit a casein shake before bed.
 
After a year doing Greyskull LP program, I have switched to Wendler's 5/3/1 boring but big variation (the less boring one)
 
I have to finish my Revolver 25 cycle, then do the mild 6bromo "pct" and then I will jump to Halo.
I hope that I can log it.
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Re: 1st cycle ever on Hdrol. Please advice. 2014/10/19 18:49:19 (permalink)
Ok. That all sounds good.

During on cycle training, focus of keeping the same weights but moving to higher reps. If you can lift for more then 4x12 and are hitting 4x15 for example, increase your weight. The idea is that in pct you go back to a 5x5 lower rep higher weight routine to shock the body in to keeping strength and muscle. Has (and is) always worked for me.

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Re: 1st cycle ever on Hdrol. Please advice. 2014/10/20 11:44:03 (permalink)
Keeping an eye on cals is vital in the long run.
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Re: 1st cycle ever on Hdrol. Please advice. 2014/10/20 11:44:03 (permalink)
Keeping an eye on cals is vital in the long run.
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Re: 1st cycle ever on Hdrol. Please advice. 2014/10/20 22:22:01 (permalink)
simonboyle
Good call



For a first cycle, agreed.
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