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1st cycle - just Deca ok?

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2005/07/26 07:05:34 (permalink)

1st cycle - just Deca ok?

Hi all...this will be my first time cycling. I am 25, 235lbs, and 6'0 tall and looking to cut up and drop some BF. I am looking to do a cycle with the least amount of side effects (physical and mental) and while doing some research on the net, I came up with primo, EQ, and winny. Unfortunatley, my luck took a turn for the worst and I recently had to dump some money into my car to get it running again, so my previous stack became too expensive. While I searched for a solution which would be lighter on my pocket, I came across Deca. I was wondering if just Deca @400mg/wk 8-10wks would do the trick. I am still researching, and seem to be coming across some people who are experiencing depression 1-3 months after their cycle. Is there something I should take afterwards to help out with this. I apologize for my lack of knowledge, but after looking around, this looks like the best place for beginner advice!
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    RE: 1st cycle - just Deca ok? 2005/07/26 07:52:12 (permalink)
    Hi mate, and welcome to MT.

    Cutting up and dropping bf is nothing to do with steroids mate, its down to your cardio and diet. If those aren't sorted, you won't cut up no matter what you take! When cutting people sometimes use steroids to hold onto muscle so they don't lose muscle they already have. My advive is visit the diet forum to get your diet sorted first, and incorporate cardio if you haven't already, and then maybe later consider some aids such as ECA and clen (see 'Other enhancing drugs' section).

    As for cycles...most people here would tend to lean towards the thinking that test should be run in most cycles, especially deca cycles etc. Deca on its own is not necessarily a great cycle really. And if you did do AAS you would need anti-estrogens for PCT (post-cycle therapy) after your course of AAS.

    See: http://www.muscletalk.co.uk/article-beginners-steroids-faq.asp

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    ORIGINAL: locklin

    Hi all...this will be my first time cycling. I am 25, 235lbs, and 6'0 tall and looking to cut up and drop some BF. I am looking to do a cycle with the least amount of side effects (physical and mental) and while doing some research on the net, I came up with primo, EQ, and winny. Unfortunatley, my luck took a turn for the worst and I recently had to dump some money into my car to get it running again, so my previous stack became too expensive. While I searched for a solution which would be lighter on my pocket, I came across Deca. I was wondering if just Deca @400mg/wk 8-10wks would do the trick. I am still researching, and seem to be coming across some people who are experiencing depression 1-3 months after their cycle. Is there something I should take afterwards to help out with this. I apologize for my lack of knowledge, but after looking around, this looks like the best place for beginner advice!

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    RE: 1st cycle - just Deca ok? 2005/07/26 12:50:13 (permalink)
    I ran some Deca with test last year and it was the first time I had run deca I believe it caused slight depression after pct not that bad but noticeable , it felt like ages before I was normal again . Everyone is different and reactions are going to differ from person to person but Deca is something I would not run on its own especially as it can cause the old man to go limp and this alone would make me think twice . Have a look at steroid profiles on anabolicreview.com and you may find a better alternative .
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    RE: 1st cycle - just Deca ok? 2005/07/26 13:59:13 (permalink)
    Agree with the mad one.

    Another thing you have to consider with Deca is it stays in the system for a LONG time(over a year). This is just my personal preferrence, but I would never ever use Deca. I stick to the gear that gets the fcuk out of my system asap when I'm finished with a cycle instead of having to deal with lingering effects for several or more months that hampers recovery.

    Some people(lucky bastards ) get along with Deca fine, but its not something I want to risk. heh
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    RE: 1st cycle - just Deca ok? 2005/07/27 03:44:28 (permalink)

    ORIGINAL: mad_cereal_lover
    Hi mate, and welcome to MT.

    Cutting up and dropping bf is nothing to do with steroids mate, its down to your cardio and diet. If those aren't sorted, you won't cut up no matter what you take! When cutting people sometimes use steroids to hold onto muscle so they don't lose muscle they already have. My advive is visit the diet forum to get your diet sorted first, and incorporate cardio if you haven't already, and then maybe later consider some aids such as ECA and clen (see 'Other enhancing drugs' section).

    sorry about that...i should've been more clear. my goal is to cut up while holding onto as much mass as i can.

    ORIGINAL: Snaeke
    Another thing you have to consider with Deca is it stays in the system for a LONG time(over a year).

    thanks for the info, didn't take that into consideration before. although that is an extremely long time, i can accept the consiquences

    also, thanks tonyb for that site, it's full of great info! i'm still trying to make my way through it all, but i was wondering if adding 250mg/wk of sust and maybe drop the deca to 300mg/wk would do the trick? thanks for all the feedback thus far!
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    RE: 1st cycle - just Deca ok? 2005/07/27 04:48:17 (permalink)
    personally I love deca. Doesnt damage your skin like HIGH DOSES of test DO. Using deca with low doses of testosterone proprionate is the way to go... this way your DICK will still work....and I dont personally care if the metabolites in deca can be detected for 18 months....Im not in the olympics so what do I care LOL :)

    If deca recovery is a problem for some than try a PRIMOBOLAN/ TEST PROP(low dose) stack


    my 2 cents .....peace all :)

    ACNE sucks!!! avoid it at all costs!!
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    RE: 1st cycle - just Deca ok? 2005/07/29 01:27:09 (permalink)
    ok, revised my cycle once again with PCT (just want to be positive):

    Weeks: 1-8 Deca @ 200mg/wk
    1-10 Sust @ 250mg/wk
    1-12 Nolva @ 10mg/wk
    13 Nolva @ 40mg + Clomid @ 100mg
    14 Nolva @ 30mg + Clomid @ 50mg
    15 Nolva @ 20mg + Clomid @ 50mg

    Does this look ok? Thanks in adv for any help!
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