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2 11-oxo powder questions: scales, and how to ingest

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2011/04/01 17:44:36 (permalink)
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2 11-oxo powder questions: scales, and how to ingest

I've got a few tubs of smartpowders 11oxo in my cupboard. I've looked into dosing method, and it seems my best bet is to my a digital scales. the 0.001g scales are very expensive, but what do you guys think of this:
 
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/...PageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT
 
My dosing could be off by up to 50mg/day either way of my ideal dose, but if I'm aiming for 500mg/day, is 10% either way that bad? Or any other suggestions are welcome
 
Also, how best to ingest the powder? with or without food? with food that contain fat?and evely thrhoughout the day:?
 
Thanks guys!!
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    m118
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    Re:2 11-oxo powder questions: scales, and how to ingest 2011/04/02 21:08:53 (permalink)
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    Re:2 11-oxo powder questions: scales, and how to ingest 2011/04/02 21:47:12 (permalink)
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    How long you had that for!!
     
    Is it PA stuff?
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    Re:2 11-oxo powder questions: scales, and how to ingest 2011/04/02 21:47:34 (permalink)
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    One way to do it is mixing 11oxo with other supplement powder, for example at 1:9, and take 10 times more.
     
    50mg can supress cortisol base on some 1970s paper, but people reported that you might need 750mg/day, more than 4 weeks, plus diet control to see result.
    that's quite expensive i will say.
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    Re:2 11-oxo powder questions: scales, and how to ingest 2011/04/02 21:48:22 (permalink)
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    How long you had that for!!

    Is it PA stuff?

    I think he got that from smartpowder in the US.
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    Re:2 11-oxo powder questions: scales, and how to ingest 2011/04/02 23:03:29 (permalink)
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    How long you had that for!!

    Is it PA stuff?

     
    months now lol. smart powders had a sale too!
     
     
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    Re:2 11-oxo powder questions: scales, and how to ingest 2011/04/02 23:04:41 (permalink)
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    not a bad idea, ideally i'd rather weigh it straight because of the risk that when i mix it wont distribute evenly.
     
    my aim is 500mg /day which I believe the probably the best for cortisol control with little impact on the HPTA.
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    Re:2 11-oxo powder questions: scales, and how to ingest 2011/04/03 19:17:58 (permalink)
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    this is how you do it,take 5 g of the 11 oxo powder mix that with 12.5 grames of glucose that will do you 50 size 1 caps at 100mg each,if you want 100 caps double it but work on those figures per 50 caps.
     
    you wont need a precision scale for this.
    post edited by Dragon nutrition - 2011/04/03 19:20:25

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    Re:2 11-oxo powder questions: scales, and how to ingest 2011/04/03 19:51:43 (permalink)
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    verry interesting. any other ideas besides a carb i could mix with?
     
    gracias
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    Re:2 11-oxo powder questions: scales, and how to ingest 2011/04/03 20:27:15 (permalink)
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    creatine/glutamine anything as long as its 12.5 g per 50 caps.

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    Re:2 11-oxo powder questions: scales, and how to ingest 2011/04/03 20:40:06 (permalink)
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    excellent suggestions.
     
    thanks mr dragon
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    Re:2 11-oxo powder questions: scales, and how to ingest 2011/04/03 20:42:10 (permalink)
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    anytime!!
     
    its dean by the way!!!

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    Re:2 11-oxo powder questions: scales, and how to ingest 2011/04/05 17:43:45 (permalink)
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    this is how you do it,take 5 g of the 11 oxo powder mix that with 12.5 grames of glucose that will do you 50 size 1 caps at 100mg each,if you want 100 caps double it but work on those figures per 50 caps.

    you wont need a precision scale for this.

    hi Dean, I have a quick question... if I get a 0.01g scale, and weigh out 0.50g, this will be pretty close 500mg correct? give or take 49mg either way, so fairly accurate.
    with this in mind, i could..
     
    - get a small piece of paper, and reset the scales.
    - weigh out 0.50g of 11oxo
    - divide the dose by 2 (by eye) and swallow 1 dose in the am, and the other in PM
     
    on top of this idea, do you think it will be effective just swallowing? or will a capsule be necessary to protect it from the stomach acids?

     
    big questions, but i appreciate the help on this! its my 1st time with a powder.
    post edited by m118 - 2011/04/05 18:09:05
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    Re:2 11-oxo powder questions: scales, and how to ingest 2011/04/05 18:09:55 (permalink)
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    you need a capsule making machine mate,just get a small basic one that holds 50 caps,get the tamper as well,you put the caps in the machine,you seperate them,they will sit flush to the top,put the powder over and spread it out,tamp it down,repeat till they are fully compacted,then pop the tops on!

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    Re:2 11-oxo powder questions: scales, and how to ingest 2011/04/05 18:30:44 (permalink)
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    I won't spend extra money buying capsule machine. I will just cut paper to small square, measure well-mixed 'diluted' powder (the powder base shouldn't be easily get moisturised. Glucose probably is not good. I think corn starch is the best) and put on each piece of paper, fold them, take one pack each time.
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    Re:2 11-oxo powder questions: scales, and how to ingest 2011/04/05 19:22:16 (permalink)
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    Mini-update, I've found and bought a cheapish 0.001g scales, and ordered 100 size 1 capsules.
     
    I figure if i start now, and do 1 cap/day ill be ready for my summer cut!
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    Re:2 11-oxo powder questions: scales, and how to ingest 2011/04/05 20:55:43 (permalink)
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    you planning on running a log ? as 11oxo isn't that commonly talked about on MT
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    Re:2 11-oxo powder questions: scales, and how to ingest 2011/04/05 21:02:34 (permalink)
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    you planning on running a log ? as 11oxo isn't that commonly talked about on MT

     
    Good idea, but i dont think i'll do a log. Not sure i can commit to writing up my diet, gym, weight, and progress everyday for the duration of an 11-oxo cycle.... 8 weeks! maybe less.
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    Re:2 11-oxo powder questions: scales, and how to ingest 2011/04/05 21:13:08 (permalink)
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    for the kind of cycle your running even just a weekly progress post in a thread would be great, give people a better idea of what 11oxo does and how they could make use of it
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    Re:2 11-oxo powder questions: scales, and how to ingest 2011/04/05 21:44:58 (permalink)
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    A Cap M Quik is a good investment.
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