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Firstly can I say that I'm new to this particular forum. I've found it very interesting and informative. I've recently decided to revamp my whole approach to training and found the information on here excellent.
I have two questions for the more experienced amongst you.
The first arises from a discussion with my Gym owner. I had described my new routine (identical to one recommended on here (5*5, basic compound movements, 3 times per week) and he recommended that I shouldn't train heavy on the big compound movements for more than 4 weeks or so without reducing the weights for a week to avoid overtraining. I understand that most programmes aim for 10/12 weeks before a break. Who is right? I ought to add that I'm 37, having trained for approx. 4 years without using drugs.
Second question is about supplements/nutrition. Now before the mods jump down my throat about being on the wrong forum, please hear me out! I've a good understanding about nutrition supplements from a pure bodybuilding perspective but I'm not sure if you guys put as much emphasis on supplementation. Apart from solid nutrition how many of you use supplements as part of your regime or am I right in thinking that most supplements are sold to bodybuilders rather than power/strength athletes?
Looking forward to your responses
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    RE: 2 Questions 2003/09/11 16:43:48 (permalink)
    For power peeps whey and maybe a multi vit is all you need

    some test prop wouldnt go a miss though
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    RE: 2 Questions 2003/09/11 17:33:46 (permalink)
    On the first question...if you are talking about a 5x5 routine where you are using the same weight for all 5 sets and getting to near failure...then YES,
    4-5 weeks using this method would be a good time to take a week off.
    On the other hand, if you using a progressive weight scheme stretched over a 10-12 week period you would be fine. This is a typical approach
    for powerlifters in my 16 months experience. I made a 50 lb gain on deads, about the same on squats and about 25 pounds on my bench
    in a 14 week cycle. I took a few days off about week 12 , cause I was getting fatigued, but the plan worked great IMO.
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    RE: 2 Questions 2003/09/14 17:05:28 (permalink)
    Thanks for the replies fellas. I'm training to failure on the 5*5 routine with the same weight each set so it sounds like the advice I received was correct. After 5 weeks or so, should I take a complete weeks break or just reduce the weights for a week and keep training[?]
    Thanks in anticipation of your help
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    RE: 2 Questions 2003/09/28 10:43:31 (permalink)
    Can anyone answer my last question? I have just completed a month on FrankieNY's mass routine-training 5*5 same weight to failure. Have made really good progress and feel great but dont want to fall into the trap of overtraing as I mentioned on my first post.
    I am intening to train lighter this week but on the same routine, concentrating of form/speed on each rep before resuming the heavier training in a weeks time.
    Does this make sense or am I talking a load of bollox!?!
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    RE: 2 Questions 2003/09/28 12:01:09 (permalink)
    Taking an entire week off from weights will do you no harm at all. I wouldn't bother with the very light training for a week, all you'll be doing is cutting into your recuperative abilities whilst not really building any muscle/strength.
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    RE: 2 Questions 2003/09/30 01:48:40 (permalink)
    Are you totally new to training or do you want to enhance your training. What goals do you have in mind?
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    RE: 2 Questions 2003/09/30 14:48:11 (permalink)
    quote:
    Originally posted by Hypershriek

    Are you totally new to training or do you want to enhance your training. What goals do you have in mind?


    As I posted earlier I have trained with weights for the last 4 years or so. For the last 2 of those I've probably wasted 8 months in dieting to get in shape for summer! I've since seen the light and decided to train/eat for strength/size for at least a couple of years or so. I don't have any particular totals in mind but do want to improve my deads/squat/bench, without worrying about six pack abs!!
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