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2nd show cycle advice please!

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2014/12/04 18:19:54 (permalink)

2nd show cycle advice please!

Hi guys long time
lurker here just looking for abit of advice on my cycle for my upcoming show next May. I'll give you some background info as I know that will help.

Height: 5:10
Age: 23
Starting weight before training: 7 stone 8
Current weight: 13:10
Heaviest weight while training: 15:2
Years training: 5
Cycle history: first cycle test E 500mg 12 weeks
Second cycle test e 500mg equipoise 400mg 12 weeks with 4 weeks dbol
Third cycle pre contest test e 500mg deca 300mg 12 weeks
Fourth cycle test prop 300mg tren ace 300mg mast prop 400mg hgh 3iu pd and 100mg anavar (5 weeks) for 14 weeks
Started my first cycle after training natural for 2 years.
Currently running test e 500mg pw been on a small cruise since last blast (started this earlier in the year around end of March April time and have made great progress)
From January 1st there will be 20 weeks till the day of the show
I have been on a slow diet for 5 weeks mainly dropping excess water weight but also have dropped a nice amount of body fat. Gradually upping cardio only doing 30min 4 times weekly atm
Thinking of running something like this:
20weeks out test e 750mg deca 400mg masteron 200mg pw adex 1mg clen upto 100mcg 2weeks on 2 off
10 weeks out test p 300mg tren ace 300mg mast 400mg pw hgh 3iu ed letrozole 2.5mg eod Clen upto 100mcg 2 weeks on 2 off then for the last 6 weeks test 300mg tren a 400mg mast 500mg pw anavar 100mg daily
Diet will be on point it's dialed in now and will be over christmas with a few scheduled refeed days when needed slowly reducing calories as I see fit but I'd rather up the cardio and keep more food in as I find it helps keep me looking fuller.
Thanks for your time reading all this haha any suggestions would be much appreciated cheers
post edited by Aaron1981 - 2014/12/04 18:34:05
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    Re: 2nd show cycle advice please! 2014/12/05 02:46:36 (permalink)
    lol ffs thats a big post
     
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    Re: 2nd show cycle advice please! 2014/12/05 03:00:45 (permalink)
    what's your current body fat%?
     
    also i'm assuming your switching from mast enan to mast prop on the 10 week out cycle. 
     
    the 20-10 week cycle makes total sense to me what i do not get it the 10-0 week cycle. you're using fast acting esters. why not stick with the same test e and mast e and simply swap deca for tren e in the middle with a 2-3 week overlap where you will be doing both? will avoid the bloat you get of test prop and avoid eod injections as you'll have allowed the tren e to build up and not allowed the test e or mast e to drop down?
     
    right i'd up the mast e to 400mg ew
     
    so my cycle would look like this:
    week 20-3 test e 750mg
    week 20-3 mast e 400mg
    week 20-9 deca 400mg
    week 11-3 tren e 300mg
    week 3-0 test prop 300mg
    week 3-0 mast prop 400mg
    week 3-0 tren acc 300mg
    week 6-0 100mg anavar
    week 11-5 400mg dnp
     
    ok explanation of above - long esters except the last 3 weeks where you swap to short esters
     
    var for 6 weeks to but
    dnp before that however to get body fat % down so the var can work
     
    i would however not expect many cuts until week 2-0 as prior to that you will be holding water from the main steroids which are still long acting and in your system.
     
    anyway - you asked - this would be my plan.
     
    ninja
     
     

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    Re: 2nd show cycle advice please! 2014/12/05 10:28:59 (permalink)
    Hi thanks for your reply. Your cycle does look a lot simpler keeping the long esters and will result in less pining which is always a plus. The only thing I wouldn't be comfortable with would be the dnp as I've no experience with it, any thing you could recommend as a substitute? My body fat level is around 10-12% right now. On a morning I can see my top 4 abs and also my serratus is show slightly and I'm starting to get a few veins in my lower ab region not really too noticeable but I can see that they are there in the right lighting. Quads are starting to split and I'm getting very vascular when training. Would it be worth still running the hgh with the cycle? I have enough to run for 2 month but was planning on seeing if I could get more for maybes a total of 4 month. Again thanks for your suggestions
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    Re: 2nd show cycle advice please! 2014/12/06 08:58:25 (permalink)
    You have certainly done your research, I first looked into steroids at 21 and decided I was too young and I couldn't take it all in.

    Started at 26, so not much older than you.

    Sounds like your doing all the right things, my goal is 13% bf ideally nearer 10% but that's probably unrealistic seeing as I hate cardio - walking my dog that's my daily intense cardio
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    Re: 2nd show cycle advice please! 2014/12/06 11:57:08 (permalink)
    Yeah I try to learn as much as i can! Always the best way in my opinion if your serious about something. I used to really hate cardio but now I'm seeing changes on a regular basis I quite enjoy it, it's just become part of my lifestyle now getting up and doing it first thing. Taking the dog out for cardio is great kills 2 birds with one stone.
    Really looking forward to starting the cycle and getting stuck into prep again I always feel like I enjoy dieting much more than offseason
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