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3 style choices! Which do you prefer?

3 style choices! Which do you prefer?

Japanese Traditional Ju Jitsu (strikes, throws, armlocks, restraints)   9% (1)
Brazilian Jiu Jitsu (Gracie Barra)   9% (1)
Mixed Martial Arts (boxing, kickboxing, takedowns and grappling on floor with strikes)   81% (9)

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2011/04/01 07:58:08 (permalink)
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3 style choices! Which do you prefer?

3 style choices
Which would you go for and why?
 
Japanese Traditional Ju Jitsu (strikes, throws, armlocks, restraints)
Brazilian Jiu Jitsu (Gracie Barra)
Mixed Martial Arts (boxing, kickboxing, takedowns and grappling on floor with strikes)
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    Osagi
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    Re:3 style choices! Which do you prefer? 2011/04/01 10:31:51 (permalink)
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    From those 3 - BJJ - cover's a range I'm less familiar with, not that I ever wish to find myself engaged in a fight at that range but it's good to cover your bases. Already got the other two 'styles' / ranges / techniques covered.
     
    Tbh though none of the above would be my prefered choice of ma if I was given a broader selection to choose from.
     
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    Grobbly
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    Re:3 style choices! Which do you prefer? 2011/04/01 10:39:40 (permalink)
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    The choices I gave are just the ones I have available to me
    Beggars can't be choosers, and all that
     
    I may even opt for boxing yet, but we'll see
     
    BJJ has always fascinated me dating back to the old Royce days before MMA became really popular
     
    Just out of interest, what MA would you prefer given the choice?
     
     
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    Re:3 style choices! Which do you prefer? 2011/04/01 11:53:55 (permalink)
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    I have decided to give boxing and bjj a go will probably throw some thai boxing in at a later stage.
     
    Osagi - if you had the choice of any MA what would be your prefered choices
     
    Cheers
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    Re:3 style choices! Which do you prefer? 2011/04/01 11:55:37 (permalink)
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    Grobbly
    Just out of interest, what MA would you prefer given the choice?


    Right now I'm pretty happy with Eskrima, ticks a lot of boxes.
     
    Do you have any background in MA or will this be your first? And the big question - what do you want out of the training? I answered the poll relating to myself and my previous experience, I may give a different answer depending on your personal circumstances.
     
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    Re:3 style choices! Which do you prefer? 2011/04/01 12:07:42 (permalink)
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    DC77

    Osagi - if you had the choice of any MA what would be your prefered choices


    If starting afresh - Eskrima, boxing and Judo, covering weapons, striking and stand-up grappling.
     
    Boxing and Judo is a pretty solid combo, Eskrima stands well on it's own (the art incorporates striking and grappling), all three combined and you're covering an awful lot of bases. The nice thing is, all of the training is applied and your effectiveness is readily measurable (which is important if you're training for 'real').
     
    If I then had the time I'd throw in BJJ and maybe transition from boxing to Muay Thai, but would prefer a solid base in boxing to start as that's the range it usually comes down to when the sh1t gets real.
     
    The above doesn't discount the effectiveness or validity of other arts many of which I've trained in, every style has something to offer it's just my understanding and experience of how various styles fit together and complement one another. 
     
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    Re:3 style choices! Which do you prefer? 2011/04/01 12:15:33 (permalink)
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    Cheers Osagi
     
    I quite fancy the boxing for the real life situation, a good right hand and left hook applies is most situation. Not that I would look for any trouble but for fitness,timing and hand speed takes a lot to beat boxing.
     
    Do you place Judo over BJJ - I have been researching a lot of gyms in the Liverpool area and BJJ is very popular and there are not many Judo places about.
     
    TBH I had to google Eskrima - it seems very weopans based at first glance
    I feel pretty old at 34 starting a new thing like a martial art but I have fancied it for a while and have decided to give it a go!
    post edited by DC77 - 2011/04/01 12:19:02
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    Re:3 style choices! Which do you prefer? 2011/04/01 13:01:04 (permalink)
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    Osagi Do you have any background in MA or will this be your first? 

    I have no background in MA, sadly
    Osagi And the big question - what do you want out of the training?
     
    Initially it'll be for cardio/keep fit/getting into shape
    Overall I'll be doing it to have a challenging hobby that requires focus and strong mindset
     
    DC77I feel pretty old at 34 starting a new thing like a martial art but I have fancied it for a while and have decided to give it a go!
      Don't let age deter you! I'm 35 and am well up for it
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    Re:3 style choices! Which do you prefer? 2011/04/01 13:35:57 (permalink)
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    Not to underplay how intense grappling work can be but if cardio is your biggest driver then you'll probably get more from the boxing/kickboxing in the MMA package.
     
    That said, with only three options to choose from I reckon the best thing to do is try them all. You'll pretty much get what you need from all three and given that the instructor can make a world of difference you may find that one option stands out clearly over the other two.
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    Re:3 style choices! Which do you prefer? 2011/04/01 13:43:02 (permalink)
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    DC77
    I quite fancy the boxing for the real life situation, a good right hand and left hook applies is most situation. Not that I would look for any trouble but for fitness,timing and hand speed takes a lot to beat boxing.

     
    Totally agree.
     

    Do you place Judo over BJJ - I have been researching a lot of gyms in the Liverpool area and BJJ is very popular and there are not many Judo places about.

     
    Again this is based on my personal experience, however as I've never been competition or 'sports' oriented, I've tailored everything I do to live application, therefore I much prefer the concept of stand up grappling (me remaining on my feet whilst the other guy hits the floor, then again, in a live situation with blades being a possiblity, I dislike the idea of grappling in general), hence my preference for judo over BJJ. Again that's based on my extremely 'modest' knowledge of BJJ as a predominantly 'ground based' art. Good to have however to complete the picture.
     

    TBH I had to google Eskrima - it seems very weopans based at first glance
    I feel pretty old at 34 starting a new thing like a martial art but I have fancied it for a while and have decided to give it a go!


    Eskrima (aka Kali / Arnis) is not that well known in the UK however it is growing in popularity. At first glance it does appear to be weapons based, predominantly sticks, however it incorporates an extremely effective empty hand system based around the weapons training. Top stuff.
     
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    Re:3 style choices! Which do you prefer? 2011/04/01 13:45:47 (permalink)
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    Gruffy

    Not to underplay how intense grappling work can be but if cardio is your biggest driver then you'll probably get more from the boxing/kickboxing in the MMA package.

    That said, with only three options to choose from I reckon the best thing to do is try them all. You'll pretty much get what you need from all three and given that the instructor can make a world of difference you may find that one option stands out clearly over the other two.


    That's a good answer for the OP.
     
    I tell you what though, you may think you're fit on your feet, but as soon as you hit the ground it all dissapears lol Top respect for BJJ players and their fitness levels.
     
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    Re:3 style choices! Which do you prefer? 2011/04/01 13:58:26 (permalink)
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    Great replies, guys
     
    @Gruffy: yeah, I fully intend on having a look at all my options before jumping in
     
    @Ostagi: great input, cheers. Really appreciate it!
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    Re:3 style choices! Which do you prefer? 2011/04/01 14:24:54 (permalink)
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    Which do I prefer for what? Self defence? Sport? Keeping fit?
     
    If it's self defence, none of them would be my first choice, but probably Ju jitsu if it's a good self defence oriented class. Although MMA would be good too and you'd probably learn the striking aspect better and quicker, you'd have to check out the class too and see how the instructor teaches, very important. I wouldnt do Brazilian Ju jitsu for self defence as going to the ground in the street is just stupid.
     
    If it's just sport/fun you're after then check out a class and see which one you'd enjoy more.

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    Re:3 style choices! Which do you prefer? 2011/04/01 14:26:52 (permalink)
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    Im thinking of trying BJJ myself, there's a club around the corner from me.
     
    At 31 and having no ma experience, apart from watching it, its pretty daunting starting from scratch. Am I too old? Or do loadsa people get into it late...?
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    Re:3 style choices! Which do you prefer? 2011/04/01 14:34:42 (permalink)
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    No it's not too late. I did krav maga, aikido and boxing older than that!
     
    Also I think BJJ may be less taxing than some other martial arts as you're on the ground a lot but I don't talk from experience as I never did it.

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    Re:3 style choices! Which do you prefer? 2011/04/01 14:55:48 (permalink)
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    Dr. Griffiths Also I think BJJ may be less taxing than some other martial arts as you're on the ground a lot but I don't talk from experience as I never did it.

    I'd imagine that BJJ would be worse than standing, as a lot of the time is spent working for subs (as opposed to stand up where you can apply pressure or not as the need arises) and having to often carry another guy's bodyweight on top of you
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    Re:3 style choices! Which do you prefer? 2011/04/01 15:49:01 (permalink)
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    Dr. Griffiths
    Also I think BJJ may be less taxing than some other martial arts as you're on the ground a lot but I don't talk from experience as I never did it.


    From the grappling I've done (judo, jitsu and a little wrestling) I can say ground fighting is incredibly taxing, surprisingly so and 'stand up fitness' is no measure for how you're going to perform on the ground. At higher levels I'm sure better technique and relaxation helps extend what's in the tank but even then it's a bloody killer!
     
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    Re:3 style choices! Which do you prefer? 2011/04/01 19:36:47 (permalink)
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    I have recently started BJJ, before this I played football for basically all my life. I can tell you now that grappling is EXTREMELY tiring, especially when your the smallest guy in the class at 11 stone and carrying people that are up to 9stone heavier than you!!
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    Re:3 style choices! Which do you prefer? 2011/04/01 19:38:50 (permalink)
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    Osagi

    From the grappling I've done (judo, jitsu and a little wrestling) I can say ground fighting is incredibly taxing, surprisingly so and 'stand up fitness' is no measure for how you're going to perform on the ground. At higher levels I'm sure better technique and relaxation helps extend what's in the tank but even then it's a bloody killer!

    Osagi

     
    Totally agree about the higher levels, the purple belts and up with us seem to be able to make it look so easy by breathing correctly. I end up leaving the mat after every spar to catch some breath and wipe some sweat off, but the higher ranks just stay on the mats!

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    Re:3 style choices! Which do you prefer? 2011/04/05 10:41:10 (permalink)
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    grappling is knackering! i do a bit of greco roman wrestling and the ground work was so tiring!
    i concentrate on boxing as that is what i love but the only thing i would personally add to boxing and wrestling would be anything that involves kicking ie thai boxing
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