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Re: 2017/07/19 20:02:05 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby Joeschop 2017/07/20 16:59:02
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the thing with the collapse in the squat try to take the breath in through the nose and really let the diaphragm expand... diaphragmatic breathing is great for keeping tight and solid...




Valgus collapse is the knees coming chap (more right than left).  Only happens when I go 80%+ of max so not sure how much of an issue it is, have been reading a couple of articles by Brad Schoefield who postulates the possible mechanical advantage of this for some people (which might be why you see it in some powerlifters and oly lifters).  Will keep working on it but not going to let it hold me back too much by fighting what my body wants to do.


yep but if you get really tight you can sit back more and stay more upright which I find helps... as to the knees coming in in general its not a bad thing perse as I make use of that on the way up to get a better drive... push knees out on the way down then at the bottom as you drive up rotate legs internally and bring them in a little (not letting them collapse in) getting that breath in allows me to stay more upright and less posterior chain work... (although I tend to be a posterior chain squatter)...


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Re: 2017/07/20 17:15:25 (permalink)
^ yep, I'm definitely a posterior chain squatter by habit.  My collapse is the same as you describe - it only happens when going heavy as I come back up (gets me through the sticking point then they go back out).  Core brace is something I'm pretty good at, and the knees come in whether I low bar, high bar or front squat (but only at the heavier weights I can handle or when I fatigued).  Just doing high bar at the minute due to a sore wrist (the massage side of things has been picking up and I think I've used my right hand in the wrong position)
 
Yesterday - training at a friend's with no reception hence the late catchup
 
high bar squats
145x1 x 4 sets
145x4 - rep pb (happy considering the fatigue from the previous days).  Tried smelling salts for the first time - got a bit close and thought I'd never get the sense of smell back in my left nostril, lol.  They helped though.
 
pause squats (2RIR)
115x4 x 4 sets - comfortable enough, but my mate/coach pointed out I probably shoudn't be pausing at the bottom as my sticking point (and knee cave point) is around parallel not at the bottom.  Will be playing about with this tomorrow.
 
pause OHP
65x2 x 4 sets - was a grind, but I don't like pressing in the oly shoes, thats my excuse
 
deadlifts
170x3 - accident, should have been 160
160x3 x 3 sets - easy enough, going to try wearing the belt on just 2 lever holes, not locked in to all 4 (lever belt) to see if this helps, if not I'll stick to beltless.
 
paused incline bench
60x10 x 4 sets
 
bradford press
barx12
25x12 x 2 sets
 
Today
started feeling a cold coming on yesterday morning and felt it more this morning so didn't do much in the way of cardio type stuff
 
row 1k @ 2:01 pace
 
calf raises on smythe
80 x 4 sets
 
posture nod things / scap dips x 3 sets

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Re: 2017/07/20 17:22:22 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby Joeschop 2017/07/20 17:36:02
Love my smelling salts, have a bottle for each nostril ATM as they're a bit old and haven't replaced them. May invest in some nose torque.
 
Tight belts seems to be a common issue with DLs, almost everyone I speak to who uses a belt does prefer it a notch or 2 looser than when they squat

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Re: 2017/07/21 14:51:15 (permalink)
today
 
high bar squats
127.5x2 x 3 sets - did 1st 2 beltless, still felt pretty easy
 
HB pause squats
120x4 - too easy although a rep pb
122.5x4 - still too light
125x4 - nope need more
127.5x4 - never done reps pausing this sort of weight at high bar before, felt really good
 
double pause HB squats
120x3 x 4 sets - this felt good too
 
pause OHP
65x2 x 4 sets - got easier as I went on
 
Pause bench
110x3 x 4 sets - went up ok, happy enough
 
Sots press
barx10 x 3 sets
 
low cable
4x10 x 3 sets
 
Squats went really well today, not sure why as I have a bit of a cold and didn't sleep that well.  happy days though

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Re: 2017/07/21 16:32:16 (permalink)
'a bit' of a cold often leads to a good session. Something about the way the body is starting to react that helps

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