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2004/03/21 18:23:52 (permalink)
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A beginner at Pull-ups...

I've just started pull-ups again (6 month absence). I was doing wide-grip ones last time (with palms facing).
Have changed to a 2-day split routine which suggests close-grip ones (palms facing).
As a beginner, I just want "big lats" basically, so what's best ? maybe a grip somewhere inbetween ?
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    RE: A beginner at Pull-ups... 2004/03/21 18:45:00 (permalink)
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    palms facing r chins......post up ur split......if u cant do the chins then do the negatives
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    RE: A beginner at Pull-ups... 2004/03/21 19:09:30 (permalink)
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    Sorry, Chins (i wondered what the difference was !).
    I can do them ok, just wondered whether wide, close, moderate etc grip is best for a beginner (just wanna build mass)
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    RE: A beginner at Pull-ups... 2004/03/21 19:12:19 (permalink)
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    wide grip is actually just about shoulder width....eat as well to build mass.....hows the rest of ur routine
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    RE: A beginner at Pull-ups... 2004/03/21 19:16:18 (permalink)
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    Sorry again ! forgot to post my split.

    Tue:
    Squats 3x8
    Deadlifts 3x8
    SLDL's 3x8
    Bicep Curls 3x8
    Weighted sit ups 3x15

    Fri:
    Flat bench 3x8
    Military press 3x8
    Incline bench (dbells) 3x8
    Bent over rows 3x8
    Close grip chins 3x8

    Have to say I'm enjoying it so far, seems to be working everywhere very well ! (judging from my DOMS anyway)
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    RE: A beginner at Pull-ups... 2004/03/21 19:19:13 (permalink)
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    DOMS dont necessarily mean ur growing mate.....so dont go by that too much....can i ask y ur doing a 2day split....i see ur doing chins at the very end when ur probably really tired....i wouldnt expect u to do ur best in those either.....a little hard.....y dont u try a 3 day split
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    RE: A beginner at Pull-ups... 2004/03/21 19:27:12 (permalink)
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    Yeah I've read that, but as a novice, it just seems a nice general feedback thing of being sore everywhere for a few days


    Yeah, I used to do the chins first on my routine 6 months ago, this one is almost perfectly modelled on a tony starks beginners 2-day split. good idea to just push them back to being the first thing I do ? I can manage 1x6 (only just started) so not too bad ?

    I really can't do more than 2 days because of time, work and other sports.
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    RE: A beginner at Pull-ups... 2004/03/21 19:35:02 (permalink)
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    yeah i see wut u mean about the doms, lol....ok well u can put chins at least before bent over rows or maybe second.....i dont no its just that u do so many large muscle groups in one session, but if TonyS put it in that order then there must be a reason.......r u sure u cant make some time for a 3day split, lol
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    RE: A beginner at Pull-ups... 2004/03/21 19:42:47 (permalink)
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    Yeah its quite hard, but I have to say I'm not struggling with anything in particular, being careful with my weight increments (although still pretty much to failure).
    the only thing i can think of, is as i get better again, I can probably do a lot of chin-ups quite easily, and would then have to do em weighted for mass building.. so maybe thats what he's assuming by putting them last. I'll try and stick with it anyway.

    No, I'm not doing 3 days ! <stamps foot>
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    RE: A beginner at Pull-ups... 2004/03/21 20:58:52 (permalink)
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    k well...stick with it and see how it goes...lol i was just suggesting, no need to stamp ur foot...lol

    dg....i think ur thinking of pullups, cuz those u can do wide grip, i would find it awkward doing chins with a literal wide grip, remember chins the palms r facing u...
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    RE: A beginner at Pull-ups... 2004/03/21 21:24:43 (permalink)
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    lol.....awwwwwww

    u dont have to go into a corner, just give urself a few slaps and thats it........hehehehe

    im jk
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    RE: A beginner at Pull-ups... 2004/03/21 21:57:46 (permalink)
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    S'ok, was just treading on a bug


    I'll keep a fairly close grip, says there's more movement that way on a website, so that sounds good for me, get me doing em good and hard !
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    RE: A beginner at Pull-ups... 2004/03/21 23:17:05 (permalink)
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    lol....a bug....riiite[:p]...u must really hate bugs...or just have no aim....u stomped about 10times really hard, lol
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    RE: A beginner at Pull-ups... 2004/03/22 00:23:25 (permalink)
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    Your not giving your lats full recovery which is probably holding you back for starters.
    You work your back 2 days.

    Try and organize your split so you work either : pushing or pulling groups.

    Back/Bis/Hammys =pulling
    Chest/Shoulders/Quads/Calves=Pushing

    So should have 1 exercise max for small groups like Bi/Tri following a 2day split, and 2 for shoulders/chest.
    And just 1 exercise for leg groupings. Hard'n Heavy.

    You'll be pretty tired following a 2 day split, so as YIB suggested may be better if you switched to a 3 day split.
    Mon=PUSHING(CHEST/SHOULDERS/TRIS)
    TUE=LEGS(QUADS/HAMS/CALVES)
    FRI=PULLING(BACK/BIS)
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    RE: A beginner at Pull-ups... 2004/03/22 00:24:59 (permalink)
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    P.S Close grip focus more on bicep,forearm strength,
    Wide grip/front grip focus on back,lat strength.

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    RE: A beginner at Pull-ups... 2004/03/22 00:39:20 (permalink)
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    Well i Dont wanna keep tinkering with it.
    I HAVE TO DO a 2 day split, and that routine is by Tony Stark for beginners, I assume he's done his best to split the muscle groups as you're suggesting across the 2 days.
    Thanks for the tip on the different grips though (thats what i was after all along), I could maybe do a set of wide and a set of close.
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    RE: A beginner at Pull-ups... 2004/03/22 00:50:34 (permalink)
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    Or you could try alternating grips per workout.
    Example
    week 1 - concentrate on close grip facing you

    week 2 - concentrate on wide grip facing away from you

    TBH, its all a matter of personal experience. Give it a lash and see how it goes.
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