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2003/08/06 18:06:22 (permalink)

A question for the ladies:

Strength - How strong are you compared to your non-training brothers/husbands etc? Have any of you exceeded average MALE strength?


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    Steel Girl
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    RE: A question for the ladies: 2003/08/06 18:56:01 (permalink)
    Legs wise I am far stronger than my husband

    Back wise I am just stronger

    bi/tri wise I am on an even keel

    Chest he is just stronger than me
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    RE: A question for the ladies: 2003/08/06 20:08:40 (permalink)
    i am generally stronger than my husband, but if he trained for a couple of weeks he would be stronger than me. he does endurance so has lean strength.

    but there is the difference, i put in up to 2 hours a day, i get up at 5.00 every morning to fit in training. he says he should but then watches t.v. with chocolate and crisps. so mentally i am far stronger, and its not giving up that gets results.
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    RE: A question for the ladies: 2003/08/06 22:55:30 (permalink)
    Lol i am getting my other half to the stage where she has an edge over non training weedy guys i think it's hilarious that she is stronger than the lads she works with when lifting boxes and the like
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    RE: A question for the ladies: 2003/08/07 07:45:11 (permalink)
    Last Thuesday I did biceps curls 21s. I did three sets with 28kgs but my work out partner, he couldn't even do one set of 14 reps.........
    I'll not say that I'm a lot stronger than this guy but very often it happens that in ENDURANCE strength (long sets) I normally win..........

    The poor guys really hate that!! lol [:P][:P]
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    RE: A question for the ladies: 2003/08/07 08:27:38 (permalink)
    philia - please say that was 28kgs on a bar, not in each hand so i dont feel so pathetic with my 10kg dumbells
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    RE: A question for the ladies: 2003/08/07 08:43:40 (permalink)
    quote:
    Originally posted by levi

    philia - please say that was 28kgs on a bar, not in each hand so i dont feel so pathetic with my 10kg dumbells

    LOL!!! Yes, I was just thinking that too. I'm pretty sure it was barbell curls.
    BTW Levi, 10kg is not pathetic anyhow. It's all about taxing the muscles.
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    RE: A question for the ladies: 2003/08/07 10:16:35 (permalink)
    The other day when I walked into the gym I felt very smug when I saw three young guys bench pressing and all using less weight than me :)

    But generally I still use half the weight of the training guys, especially poor on biceps..triceps I'm not far off....but of course I have a huge size disadvantage!
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    RE: A question for the ladies: 2003/08/07 10:17:23 (permalink)
    re: normal guys, well i dont know, because they dont lift weights to compare!!
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    RE: A question for the ladies: 2003/08/07 10:28:19 (permalink)
    It depends what you mean by 'average male' I can exceed the average untrained 'man on the street'.
    If I compare myself to my husband, who is not untrained, I cant exceed him on anything in terms of absolute strength, but I can do as many pull ups as he can at a higher bodyfat percentage, so that would make my strength to lean body weight ratio better than his, for that exercise. I can press about a bit over half the weight that he can.
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    RE: A question for the ladies: 2003/08/07 11:40:15 (permalink)
    Ladies,

    Thanks a lot for the replies. Personally, I'm a big fan of female strength, so it's tremendous that some of you can outlift your untrained male peers! Some of you mentioned functional strength, and I think that a few of you should be able to lift, for example, heavier luggage bags, or help push a strangers broken-down car.

    A few points to individuals:

    Steel Girl; Not surprised that your legs are far stronger than your husbands. The strength difference between untrained male and female legs is nominal. Keep working on your upper body, you've already closed the gap, I think you could become his physical superior!

    Levi: As a nightbird, I don't understand how people can train first thing in the morning; 5.00am?!!? I see what you mean about mental discipline!

    Philia: You seem to be the Alpha female here. I too was shocked when I read 28K curls, I myself only do seated curls with 15kg dumbells!

    Gymbabe: The fact you can bench more than 3 random guys means that you're probably stronger at least as strong as most small men.

    Medusa: Half of your (trained) husbands benchpress is nothing to be scoffed at, believe me!


    Once again, many thanks. If anyone else wants to chime in, that'd be great.


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    RE: A question for the ladies: 2003/08/07 11:52:06 (permalink)
    Oooooooh gotta sort this one out!!!!!
    First of all I got tiny arms......... [V] That's how it is...... I'm darn too long all over, [}:)] and that's including my arms BUT I have been weight training for more than 10 years now (geez, it makes me feel old!!! Serious weight training not more than three years though!) So even though that I don't look extremely muscular ([:(!][:(!][:(!]) I do have worked up a bit of strength.

    Secondly, I hate working my biceps.......... I do it (or I wont be able to do pull ups) but I'm really not fan of this curling movement SO when I finally force myself to work biceps, then I work them well......

    28kgs in each hand?!!! Are you crazy?!!!!! LOL no sorry folks, that's the weight of my barbell curls.

    Finally, when you compare strength between women and men then you have to look at the different body compositions as well.

    Honestly I don't really care about how much I'm able to lift as long as I can feel the muscle work hard. I can get great muscle growth out of a 5kg dumbbell........ It's all a question about concentration and intensity.
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    RE: A question for the ladies: 2003/08/07 12:27:59 (permalink)
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    Medusa: Half of your (trained) husbands benchpress is nothing to be scoffed at, believe me!

    Thank you Jaybee, he is after all 16stone/6ft tall and 'roided up, where as I am a 5ft 2 dumpling[:p]

    Phylia, people forget about leverages/biomechanical advantages etc, and underestimate the difference they make to what a person can lift.

    jaybee, I'd like to add that, although, on average men are bigger with proportionatly more muscle tissue than women, these differences are amplified by the way that boys tend to be encouraged to be more active and physical from an early age, this means thay develop a better foundation of physical strength and neuro muscular co-ordination. Of course I am generalising, but my point is that the idea that women are weaker & more delicate than men is mostly a social construct
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    RE: A question for the ladies: 2003/08/07 13:05:31 (permalink)
    quote:
    Originally posted by Medusa

    Thank you Jaybee, he is after all 16stone/6ft tall and 'roided up, where as I am a 5ft 2 dumpling[:p]

    jaybee, I'd like to add that, although, on average men are bigger with proportionatly more muscle tissue than women, these differences are amplified by the way that boys tend to be encouraged to be more active and physical from an early age, this means thay develop a better foundation of physical strength and neuro muscular co-ordination. Of course I am generalising, but my point is that the idea that women are weaker & more delicate than men is mostly a social construct


    Medusa,

    I'm physically similar to your husband, same height, half a stone heavier, but I don't do 'Roids. Not to get into a big debate about it, but until more conclusive and non-conflicting evidence of the long-term effects is found, I'm staying away. But that only makes YOUR benchpress all the more impressive!

    That is an excellent point about social upbringing. Some girls get into the rough and tumble of childhood regardless, and are unfairly labelled 'tomboys'. My cousin has a 13 y.o daughter who is very gifted genetically, easily stronger than the average 25 y.o woman (and with a mouth to match). She got into a a game of Mercy at a party with a weedy 31 yo friend of the family; after half a minute, he cried out "Mercy!", frantically rubbing his hand!

    Another telling sign is the body's centre of gravity. By nature/nurture (delete as appropriate), most if not all men know where theirs are, whereas women usually do not. I used to playfight with my ex-girlfriend, and she was 5-10" and very strong. I could floor her easily, yet she could push and heave at me...nothing. Even a Rugby tackle, I would barely sway an inch. Most guys who have playfighted (should that be playfought?) with girlfriends/wives can attest that women are much easier to take down than men.

    Childhood development is important to longer term muscle growth. I only had vegetarian meals as a kid growing up, and I'm pretty sure I'd be 25Ibs bigger today if I had more protein to build core bulk.


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    RE: A question for the ladies: 2003/08/07 13:31:00 (permalink)
    my children are both vegetarian, my daughter is much bigger and stronger than her peers, frequently injuring them during sport as she does'nt realise her own strength, although at 9yrs the gender difference is'nt there yet. also educationally she works about 3yrs ahead, so a well planned veggie diet is not to blame. ask veganlifter, if anything the extra thought that goes into 'limited' diets often makes them better than normal diets.
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    RE: A question for the ladies: 2003/08/07 13:34:13 (permalink)
    Jaybee, (I didn't say i was natural tho)
    Wrt centre of gravity, women generally have a lower centre of gravity (part of the reason men can usually press more weight overhead) and so should be less easily floored. Women perhaps tend to be less practised at using thier body wieght to their advantage? (I can pin my husband down to the floor so that he cant get up by 'spreading myself out' which is very amusing[:p])

    I was brought up with a vegitarian diet aswell, I'm not sure if it has had a long term effect?? I'm inclined to think that i would havce had to have been genrally underfed or badly deficient in protein for it to have stunted my growth. I think we should pobably make a distinction between how much protien is needed for normal childhood develpoment and the amounts that are recomended to optimise muscle growth for bbers
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    RE: A question for the ladies: 2003/08/07 14:21:39 (permalink)
    i am a lifelong vegetarian and i have muscles :)





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    RE: A question for the ladies: 2003/08/07 15:07:26 (permalink)
    GBLiz, I wasbut I have to say although I still don't eat meat, I eat quite alot of fish (which in my bookis still flesh, so I can no longer say I'm vegitarian)and I feel better for it!
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    RE: A question for the ladies: 2003/08/07 15:43:10 (permalink)
    yeah but I need to give the boys half a chance, I might turn into Mighty Mouse or something :)

    Seriously, would be nice if i could just eat chickens all day or something, but I just couldn't COULD NOT do it!

    Back to the main topic, I can EASILY beat untrained men, and plenty trained men, at pull ups, press ups, most ab stuff, handstand press ups, so pound for pound I'm stronger in a lot of ways :)

    But wrestling i always come off worst by a LONG way (and most bruised!)

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    RE: A question for the ladies: 2003/08/07 16:23:21 (permalink)
    Jaybee - my husband trains with me so he is not untrained although I am sure he would like to outdo me in more than he does

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