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2005/08/04 15:28:29 (permalink)
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ALRI Ultra HOTter?

Just had a call from www.discount-supplements.co.uk to say ALRI have discontinued Ultra HOT and that they will be sending a bottle of ALRI Ultra HOTter instead. Any ideas whether this will be just as good for a Superdrol PCT? Looking at the website it seems one of the ingredients is 17a so I assume this will be slightly liver toxic aswell.

http://www.alrindustries.com/ultra-hot.htm

How would I run this as PCT?

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    RE: ALRI Ultra HOTter? 2005/08/04 15:38:28 (permalink)
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    no I dont beleive it is a 17aa, yeah sure one of the compounds has methyl in it but that doesnt mean its a 17aa.

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    RE: ALRI Ultra HOTter? 2005/08/04 15:41:22 (permalink)
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    17a-methyl-17b-hydroxyl-3-keto-delta 1,4,6-etioallocholtriene is the one Im talking about, looks like 17a alkylated to me.
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    RE: ALRI Ultra HOTter? 2005/08/04 15:54:52 (permalink)
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    ORIGINAL: reef

    17a-methyl-17b-hydroxyl-3-keto-delta 1,4,6-etioallocholtriene is the one Im talking about, looks like 17a alkylated to me.


    what makes you think that ?. I am no chemist but I dont beleive its a 17aa, I am sure MCL can confirm this though as he is a wizz with chemistry
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    RE: ALRI Ultra HOTter? 2005/08/04 16:10:37 (permalink)
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    17a-methyl looks 17aa to me too.

    Looks like methyl-ATD to me.
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    RE: ALRI Ultra HOTter? 2005/08/04 17:21:02 (permalink)
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    It's a methylated analogue of ATD.

    None of the well chem-minded people on the net (including pat arnold) have rated it, so i guess we'll have to wait and see what the real-world results are like.
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    RE: ALRI Ultra HOTter? 2005/08/04 17:33:29 (permalink)
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    Any ideas of what dose of this would be run for PCT? Thought about the following but its a total guess as theres is absolutely NO information anywhere about this stuff:

    Day 1: 3 Tabs
    Day 2-11: 2 Tabs
    Day 12-21: 1 Tab

    Nolva on hand and 1000mg Milk Thistle plus EFAs/RRY etc.
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    RE: ALRI Ultra HOTter? 2005/08/04 17:40:42 (permalink)
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    17aa doesnt sound too good, as PCT is a recovery stage, not just for test but for the whole body. Youd be better off running a cycle twice as long and using RXT/Novla for PCT.

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    RE: ALRI Ultra HOTter? 2005/08/04 17:44:01 (permalink)
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    Until there's more feedback i'd feel much better if you use another ATD product such as Gaspari's Novadex, Giant's ATD, or even try and get some Ultra HOT.

    I'm really no expecting this to be a worthy PCT product.
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    RE: ALRI Ultra HOTter? 2005/08/04 20:21:51 (permalink)
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    I'm getting some of this alri hotter sent to me aswell.
    Hope it's ok for PCT as I don't know much about it.
    fella from the supplement shop said it id the new improved ultra hot.
    Said it does the same trick.
    I'm planning on running SD for 4 weeks so will need to be sure this hotter is all it's said to be. Aren't the ingredients the same??


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    RE: ALRI Ultra HOTter? 2005/08/04 21:15:54 (permalink)
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    ORIGINAL: warrior1

    I'm getting some of this alri hotter sent to me aswell.
    Hope it's ok for PCT as I don't know much about it.
    fella from the supplement shop said it id the new improved ultra hot.
    Said it does the same trick.
    I'm planning on running SD for 4 weeks so will need to be sure this hotter is all it's said to be. Aren't the ingredients the same??




    No.

    If i were you, i'd run the bottle as a stand-alone first to see if you get the typical effects that manifest from high T and low E. If you get them, then you know it will help in PCT. If you don't, you know to get your hands on something else.

    I wouldn't risk a cycle of SD with a form of PCT that has little feedback and is getting slated by most of the chem-heads.
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    RE: ALRI Ultra HOTter? 2005/08/04 21:28:54 (permalink)
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    I wonder if 6-oxo would be a better choice then

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    RE: ALRI Ultra HOTter? 2005/08/04 21:36:57 (permalink)
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    RE: ALRI Ultra HOTter? 2005/08/05 02:26:22 (permalink)
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    Hmm, got the same coming too for my Brothers PCT, wondering why they changed it though, unless they do believe it to be superior, hope its ok though, saying that my Bro has been totally off the M1T for 4 days now, and for a week before that on 5mg every second day, and hes still the same weight, but is lifting more, and i thought i was lucky on PCT.

    I'll let you guys know how it is as a PCT product, and as a Standalone as i will try a bottle myself this month.

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    RE: ALRI Ultra HOTter? 2005/08/05 12:13:28 (permalink)
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    anyone shed any light on why ALRI have changed the make up of this product, i used ultra HOT for pct after sd/lmg and found it to be very good, so why mess about with it !
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    RE: ALRI Ultra HOTter? 2005/08/05 12:20:56 (permalink)
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    not sure why they messed, maybe in the quest to bring out the ultimate product. TBH I will be sticking with RXT. I think its change for change sake. Abit like when subaru changed the scooby, they fcuked it, its coz it was so good the only way forward was backwards.


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    RE: ALRI Ultra HOTter? 2005/08/05 12:22:27 (permalink)
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    have you used rebound xt on previous cycles cliff ? how did you go with it ok ?
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    RE: ALRI Ultra HOTter? 2005/08/05 12:27:34 (permalink)
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    RXT seeemed to work a treat, used it on PCT from my SD cycle, noticed real good increases in strength from it, like being on cycle!!!, deadlift shot up.

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    RE: ALRI Ultra HOTter? 2005/08/05 12:33:27 (permalink)
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    ORIGINAL: hodgey

    anyone shed any light on why ALRI have changed the make up of this product, i used ultra HOT for pct after sd/lmg and found it to be very good, so why mess about with it !


    I'd guess pressure in the ATD market since Giant joined. The rebound fault was a gift to them and boosted their sales quite a lot.

    Now that rebound is coming back and giant have their ATD product, they'd just be making up the numbers so they've come up with something that differentiates them from the rest.

    Note that this is purely speculation on my part and Author may genuinely have it in his head that this methlyated analogue is superior to ATD. Real-world results are gonna be the decisive factor in establishing whether he is right.
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    RE: ALRI Ultra HOTter? 2005/08/05 12:34:04 (permalink)
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    ORIGINAL: cliff_vtr

    RXT seeemed to work a treat, used it on PCT from my SD cycle, noticed real good increases in strength from it, like being on cycle!!!, deadlift shot up.

    Paul


    Most people stated that it was like they never came off-cycle.
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