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2006/07/19 13:33:52 (permalink)
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AXT Labs, MD2

Hi, i'm new to the site but been training about 2 years, diet and routine are pretty decent, currently bulkin.

Just a quick question on the MD2 Clone from AXT Labs, ordered a couple of tubs a few months back but been a bit dubious to start the cycle after hearing it might be useless or could do me damage, have Nolva, Milk thistle and some multivitamins in place. Has anybody used it or currently in a cycle and seen any results?

Any feedback much appreciated.

cheers
Floyd

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    Osagi
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    RE: AXT Labs, MD2 2006/07/19 14:10:24 (permalink)
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    Hi Floyd

    Slightly curious how you ordered your MD2 clone from AXT Labs a 'few months back' when the company only 'opened for business' last month?

    Anyhow, you asked how reputable AXT Labs were, well you need only run a quick search in the supplement section for this site and read the handful of posts that have been made on AXT Labs to work out that they are a very shady operation indeed.

    However to summarise;

    I was supposed to be a tester for AXT Labs. They sent me a tub of 'their' product which they expected me to trial. However before ingesting anything I wanted to be sure I knew wh I was dealing with, so I asked them for some contact details, names, addresses, etc (which is something distinctly lacking from both their web site, domain registration detials and their communications via email on on this forum, very suspect). Surprisingly they didn't reply to my many emails. Remember I am supposed to be their tester, working in partnership with the labs as it were.

    Anyhow it wasn't until I openly called their bluff here on MT that they surfaced again attemtpting to defend themselves. Still not convinced by anything they had to say (very, very bad PR to say the least), I asked them for a certificate of authentication (COA), telling me what was in the capsule sI had been sent. they actually sent me a COA (which is supposed to have come direct from their suppliers, a supposed lab over in Nanjing, China) however when I did some fonrensic work on the (Word) document that had been mailed to me I found that it had actually been made up that evening shortly after my requesting it by a guy named 'Matthew' (who through other means I found out to be the name of the guy behind AXT Labs as well as several other suspect Muscletalk aliases).

    I passed this document onto a mod here at MT who asked AXT Labs to send him a phtocopy of the original COA and some contact detaisl which they were still refusing to give.

    At the same time I mailed them (sent 4 or 5 times over the space of a week) asking them to provide me with bnames, contact detials, name and contact in the lab that supposedly provided the raw ingredient, where the product was encapsulated and packaged, etc, etc.

    Their response - Nothing!! That was the last we here at MT or anybody for that matter has heard from them.

    So very suspect, very shady and if you want my personal opinion on these guys, they were / are nothing more than a poorly organised scammer outfit setup up to sucker people in and subsequently rip them off at some point in the future once they had established a little revenue on their books. As such I would personally recommend that they be avoided at all costs.

    With regards their products, well lets just say, since they appear to have forged their COA we have no idea what went into the product and therefore I wouldn't recommend that product goes into you.

    I suppose the one good thing I discovered was that AXT Labs paypal account (the only method of payment they accept, again avoiding giving an address to send cheques) has been locked and is unable to receive funds. Therefore they currently can't sucker anybody else in.

    But hopefully this post will serve as a warning for every body else to avoid AXt Labs.

    Osagi
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    RE: AXT Labs, MD2 2006/07/19 14:21:22 (permalink)
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    i wonder if there ips match

    as above avoid...
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    RE: AXT Labs, MD2 2006/07/19 14:30:21 (permalink)
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    ORIGINAL: CK

    i wonder if there ips match

    as above avoid...


    Who's, floyd's, axt lab's or minodorian's?? lol

    My predication, 5 minutes time AXT labs will make a post telling us that we are wrong and that we don't know what were talking about and that we will find out they are legit as in the end the proof will be in the pudding!!

    When we ask them why they haven't replied to our emails or posts they will say they never received them and that they have been busy promoting their company on, erm, wait they only ever promoted it on MT didn't they?? lol

    Finally when we get p*ssed off with them and insist that we still don't beleive them they will produce a note from their mum telling us they havn't been well, which when we look at the document properties, we will find the note has actually been forged and produced by a guy called matthew.

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    RE: AXT Labs, MD2 2006/07/19 15:41:43 (permalink)
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    Sorry, yep it was middle of June i received my order. Luckily it didn't break the bank, but even still if i went to the lengths of some people and stocked up it could of been costly. But i suppose the cost is irrelevant if nobody knows whats in them. And as nobody has any positive feedback, it'll warn people in future. Just confuses me, that if it was a scam why send the product? or if they wanted a reputable business why not respond?

    Thanks for your help Osagi.

    Floyd
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    RE: AXT Labs, MD2 2006/07/19 16:12:01 (permalink)
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    there could be anything in those caps. I emailed them too several times and nothing back..they are total scammers IMO.
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    RE: AXT Labs, MD2 2006/07/19 16:18:34 (permalink)
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    Get to Cheapuksups asap they have some Juggernaut MD2 left I believe if you want some!

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    RE: AXT Labs, MD2 2006/07/19 16:40:33 (permalink)
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    Osagi,

    Cheers for taking the time to write such an indepth answer.

    It is great to know that there are people out there who are prepared to take the time to look after the welfare of the bb community.

    Cheers, DMT.

    When I was a young boy, my father took me into the city to see a marching band. He said, "Son when you grow up, will you be the saviour of the broken, the beaten and the damned?".
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    RE: AXT Labs, MD2 2006/07/19 17:01:36 (permalink)
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    Yeah, it is nice to know you've got people like Osagi out there...

    Good work dude...
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    RE: AXT Labs, MD2 2006/07/19 19:10:04 (permalink)
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    ditto that, nice work osagi and thanks

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    RE: AXT Labs, MD2 2006/07/19 19:21:30 (permalink)
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    Just to re-iterate what the fella's have said. Osagi has put a lot of time and effort into the whole AXT charade and this is fully appreciated by the mod team and members alike. Without this tireless work that exposed the company for what they were, there may have been many more who would have lost their hard earned £££.

    Many thanks once again mate.


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    RE: AXT Labs, MD2 2006/07/19 19:29:20 (permalink)
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    No problem guys. We all play a part in the MT community in supporting each other and keeping each other safe. Just glad I was able to spot the bad apple before they spoiled the barrel and took anybody for a ride.

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    RE: AXT Labs, MD2 2006/07/20 09:53:44 (permalink)
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    ORIGINAL: PartyBoy
    Many thanks once again mate.



    Does he win a free MT badge??
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    RE: AXT Labs, MD2 2006/07/20 09:53:46 (permalink)
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    I was supposed to be a tester too, I asked for my parcels tracking reference and didn't get a responce. After reading Osagi's emails to myself I wouldn't have popped a pill either, could've been dirty cocaine for all we knew. Or dandruff *shivers*. Also a conspiracy theory here, Bin Laden tried getting the Columbian Drug Lords to "dirty" their coke and basically kill thousands of Americans. Perhaps Bin Laden was behind AXT Labs? Perhaps it was Anthrax or his ground up pubes in the tablets? Or maybe not....
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    RE: AXT Labs, MD2 2006/07/20 11:39:41 (permalink)
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    I think I can do one better. If you are a subscriber to Discount-Supps emag, they are doing Alri ergomax LMG for £15 - offer ends at the end of July and you can only order via the link from the emag. Received the email just yesterday and snapped up two bottles.


    ORIGINAL: twistywizard

    Get to Cheapuksups asap they have some Juggernaut MD2 left I believe if you want some!



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    RE: AXT Labs, MD2 2006/07/20 12:51:51 (permalink)
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    ORIGINAL: hambo

    I think I can do one better. If you are a subscriber to Discount-Supps emag, they are doing Alri ergomax LMG for £15 - offer ends at the end of July and you can only order via the link from the emag. Received the email just yesterday and snapped up two bottles.



    Any chance you could go one better still and give us the full url for the site and how we go about signing up for this newsletter?

    Go on, be a pal

    Osagi
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    RE: AXT Labs, MD2 2006/07/20 13:05:24 (permalink)
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    Ok try:

    http://www.dsupp.eu/eshop/testosterone-support/alri-ergomax-lmg---60-capsules.asp?referrer=nl29

    BTW thanks for the warning Osagi about AXT labs.

    ORIGINAL: Osagi

    ORIGINAL: hambo

    I think I can do one better. If you are a subscriber to Discount-Supps emag, they are doing Alri ergomax LMG for £15 - offer ends at the end of July and you can only order via the link from the emag. Received the email just yesterday and snapped up two bottles.



    Any chance you could go one better still and give us the full url for the site and how we go about signing up for this newsletter?

    Go on, be a pal

    Osagi

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    RE: AXT Labs, MD2 2006/07/20 13:16:43 (permalink)
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    Osagi... Have ya used this before? Any thoughts on it...?
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    RE: AXT Labs, MD2 2006/07/20 13:29:25 (permalink)
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    ORIGINAL: Chamber

    Osagi... Have ya used this before? Any thoughts on it...?


    Ergo Max LMG? No never used it myself, however when you consider that EMax LMG was the original of which MD2 was a actually a clone, I'd say it must be a pretty good supp and the reviews I've read of it certianly back this up. In fact as far as I understand it, the orignal EMax LMG cost circa £40 whilst the cheaper MD2 clone was originally marketed at a quarter of that by one of MT sponsors (Chuks) and I believe that may be the only reason MD2 is the better known and perhaps more used supp on this forum.

    So yes, I'd say this one was a safe bet and well worth giving it a shot especially at that price.

    Edited as I refered to Ergo Max LMG as simply 'MAX LMG' a couple of times, Ergo Max LMG and Max LMG are two different products put out by the same company containing different chemicals so I didn't want to confuse anybody with my original post.

    Osagi

    post edited by Osagi - 2006/07/20 13:43:44
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    RE: AXT Labs, MD2 2006/07/20 13:38:42 (permalink)
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    Cool. Another question...

    Im on an MD2 cycle at the mo and only bought one tub, for a four week cycle. Was gonna buy another tub and extend it to 6 as all seems fine. Is it best not to mix the two.? Or as its a clone, it'll be ok to do the last 2 weeks with this,..?
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