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2009/07/24 11:46:55 (permalink)
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Advice Please

I am fairly new to the steroid world, ran cycle of deca before and test ent.
I am looking for someone who can help me and give advice.
I am 6.1 15.7lb and about 14%
I want to go on a bulking cycle first followed by a good cutting cycle.
Can you go straight from one to another. Also i gain weight easy and so bulking is not an issue but i dont want to get huge bloat, i want large lean mass. Also i dont know much about pct so can someone give me advice.
Basically what i want someone to help me with is
1 :  A very good bulking cycle followed by
2 :  A super cutting cycle ( problem area for me)
Please somebody help me
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    Re:Advice Please 2009/07/24 16:55:13 (permalink)
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    PLEASEEEEE !!!!!!!!!!!!!
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    Re:Advice Please 2009/07/24 17:02:27 (permalink)
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    Bulking cycle
     
    deca and test with a dbol kickstart using adex 1mg every 3rd day.

    500 test 500 deca 30mg dbol for the first 4 weeks. stop deca week 10 continue test till week 12. pct 2 weeks after last jab.

    cutting cycle

    prop,tren,masteron using anavar or winstrol also use adex with this cycle
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    Re:Advice Please 2009/07/24 23:10:04 (permalink)
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    didless

    Bulking cycle
     
    deca and test with a dbol kickstart using adex 1mg every 3rd day.

    500 test 500 deca 30mg dbol for the first 4 weeks. stop deca week 10 continue test till week 12. pct 2 weeks after last jab.

    cutting cycle

    prop,tren,masteron using anavar or winstrol also use adex with this cycle


    8 compounds for someone new to steroids?

    With all due respect I think it can be done a whole lot simpler than that.

    At 14%, which is not exactly high - I'd include lots of AM cardio and a sensible diet which should give you a 'lean bulk' which to my mind makes more sense that say 10 weeks all out bulk followed by 10 weeks cutting.  Less drugs, less time on and less generally being all over the place.




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    Re:Advice Please 2009/07/24 23:49:22 (permalink)
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    Errrrr noooooo

    1st cycle test enathate or cypionate for a max 10weeks with 500mg


    2nd cycle would do maybe sus 500mg a week and deca 400mg deca for ten weeks sus for 12.

    Get ya diet right then go from there research/post ya current diet in diet section



    "prop,tren,masteron using anavar or winstrol also use adex with this cycle"

    please ignore this, good cutting cycle comes from good diet,not taking all this stuff.

    wouldnt recommend tren/winny/masteron to anyone who aint done one cycle yet. Plus depending on what tren ya go for or masterone likelyhood is if you folllowed this guys advice you would be jabbing monday/wednesday/friday
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    Re:Advice Please 2009/07/25 12:00:31 (permalink)
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    Falconski

    Errrrr noooooo

    1st cycle test enathate or cypionate for a max 10weeks with 500mg


    2nd cycle would do maybe sus 500mg a week and deca 400mg deca for ten weeks sus for 12.

    Get ya diet right then go from there research/post ya current diet in diet section



    "prop,tren,masteron using anavar or winstrol also use adex with this cycle"

    please ignore this, good cutting cycle comes from good diet,not taking all this stuff.

    wouldnt recommend tren/winny/masteron to anyone who aint done one cycle yet. Plus depending on what tren ya go for or masterone likelyhood is if you folllowed this guys advice you would be jabbing monday/wednesday/friday


    this will be his 3rd cycle.
     
    so your saying tren,prop,mast isnt a good cuting cycle?
     
     i agree diet is a main key factor but dieting with no anabolic support is going to lose you muscle and the main objective of a cut is to maintain maximum size whilst droping maximum bodyfat.
     
     
    how do you think most people cut by just diet and cardio!
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    Re:Advice Please 2009/07/25 12:03:17 (permalink)
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    you should not go straight from a bulking cycle to a cutting cycle or you will lose pretty much everything you gained. You should continue to bulk for at least a couple of months before cutting to give your body a chance to hold on to the new muscle.


    good advice.
     
    a lean bulk will mean an easyier cut.
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    Re:Advice Please 2009/07/25 13:03:08 (permalink)
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    Guys thanks very much for your help. Very confused about it. To be precise i am 100kg. Dont really want to get any bigger, want to create more muscle mass without the bloat, does this make since
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    Re:Advice Please 2009/07/25 13:03:09 (permalink)
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    Guys thanks very much for your help. Very confused about it. To be precise i am 100kg. Dont really want to get any bigger, want to create more muscle mass without the bloat, does this make since
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    Re:Advice Please 2009/07/25 14:26:46 (permalink)
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    yes adex 1 mg e3d will help with bloat and control estrogen but normally a good diet will also helpwith water.

    drink plenty of water, cut salt from diet.
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    Re:Advice Please 2009/07/25 19:31:46 (permalink)
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    agreed keep water up, carbs and salt not too high

    do cardio on a regular basis

    and adex as recommended above should do the job
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    Re:Advice Please 2009/07/26 06:33:45 (permalink)
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    I have to agree with Erekose on the quantity of meds... as I believe that it is somewhat unnecssary to dive that deep for someone that is still learning what meds they correspond with best. what's your diet?? IME bulking and cutting come down strictly to your diet on cycle... some meds are better at keeping the bloat down... but this is simply something that will go away after cycle anyways!! so again bulk and cutting come down to diet and cardio... test for example is a great med for both... but lots of people tend to bloat a little without the addition of a-dex... masteron and winny however are great meds that tend to hold less water while on and are widely used by BB's most often because it is easier to dry up for comp's on these... personally I would rather take test as I feel it is superior to either of the other two for actual muscle gains however I have not used winny but have gathered it is not equal to test for gains, but test does come with some water retention, though as didless said if you want to keep the water down a-dex will take care of that as well as diet i.e. cut salt intake and drink alot of water.
     
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