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2007/06/19 20:05:41 (permalink)
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Advice from strongman competitors...

I'm not a newbie so my apologies if this comes across as a bit of a newbie question;

I'm considering doing a novice strongman comp next year but I'm unsure as how best to set out my training program, I understand that I will have to practise lifting very heavy weights in order to increase my strength and skill levels but I also want to retain as much muscle mass as possible. I'm looking to compete in the 105 kilo class:

Here is what I have in mind: One week of very heavy lifting spread over three workouts, so Monday would be a heavy pulling day, with some grip work, Weds, Lots of pressing and triceps work, Friday, Hips and Legs...

Following week, what I've termed "cosmetic training, or hypertrophy training", this week I would do a four way split and train more like a bodybuilder focusing on achieving a good pump while fatiguing the muscle, which is what I'm doing at present..

Is this a viable option and does it seem like a well structured routine?, as I've never trained for a strongman contest so I'm a bit unsure how best to proceed.

Many thanks

Paul.
post edited by Paul Marsland - 2007/06/19 20:06:43
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    Ken Nowicki
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    RE: Advice from strongman competitors... 2007/06/19 20:40:16 (permalink)
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    I compete and always stick to the 3day heavy weight split and then events aswell, really need event experience if you can get it.
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    RE: Advice from strongman competitors... 2007/06/19 21:49:24 (permalink)
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    One VERY good bit of advice given to me before I competed is to TRAIN EVENTS. You could be stronger in the gym than the other competitors but if you dont have event experience you could get found wanting in competition. Of course you could deadlifting 250kg+ and pressing 140kg+ in which case youd probably do well anyway but I think its always best to know what your up against before comp day.
    post edited by WILL SAN - 2007/06/19 21:50:25
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    RE: Advice from strongman competitors... 2007/06/19 22:41:35 (permalink)
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    totally agree with BSB stick to the 3day heavy weight split and then events aswell, where abouts you based do you have access to events equipment ?
    post edited by lost - 2007/06/19 22:46:08
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    RE: Advice from strongman competitors... 2007/06/19 23:32:41 (permalink)
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    fancy trying some equipment let me know.
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    RE: Advice from strongman competitors... 2007/06/20 15:00:52 (permalink)
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    ORIGINAL: evertonfc

    fancy trying some equipment let me know.



    Would LOVE to mate, were abouts are you? I guess with a user name like EvertonFC you are north west based? I believe Titans Gym in Tranmere has somee but at £15 a session is a bit steep! Thanks for the replies though looks like a 3 day split is the way to go then...
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    RE: Advice from strongman competitors... 2007/06/20 15:06:35 (permalink)
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    **** Titians off, he's seems to be abit of a prick too.
    Not forgeting his equipment is ****e and he's got fcuk all weights.

    I'm down the road, Fitzy's Gym Powerhouse.
    Usally best for Saturady as there is fcuk all space in there at other times but your welcome anytime mate.
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    RE: Advice from strongman competitors... 2007/06/20 15:43:37 (permalink)
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    Powerhouse just off Stanley road? Sat should be ok, although I work on the post most Sat's and do the Door on a Friday night so it will have to wait till I get a Sat off. I'll PM you when I next have a Sat off and come down for a go. Cheers for that mate...
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    RE: Advice from strongman competitors... 2007/06/20 15:55:51 (permalink)
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    i usally there from 1 onwars and it's open till just gonr 6 most Saturday's
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    RE: Advice from strongman competitors... 2007/06/20 16:10:24 (permalink)
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    Sound, I can have a kip after work and meet you there mid afternoon about threeish. I'll PM you when I'm gonna come down, thanks again mate much appreciated;


    For the record and to give some overall idea of my general strength here are my best lifts:

    Seated BB Press 105 kilos
    Hammer Strength Shoulder Press 130 kilos
    Trap Bar Deadlift 240 kilos
    Hammer Strength Deadlift 320 kilos
    Thick Bar Deadlift using 2 inch scaffold pole 210 kilos
    Closed Ironmind #2 Gripper
    Squat 230 kilos
    Regular Deadlift 26o kilos (by mistake would you believe?)
    Farmers Hold for time 250 kilos for 60 seconds


    These were some time ago as I've been more into bodybuilding these last couple of years, but are these levels enough to be competitive at a novice comp?
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    RE: Advice from strongman competitors... 2007/06/20 16:23:47 (permalink)
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    ORIGINAL: Paul Marsland

    These were some time ago as I've been more into bodybuilding these last couple of years, but are these levels enough to be competitive at a novice comp?


    novice comps is the playground, like the organisers of novice comps said elsewhere they are like learning to ride a bike with the extra wheels on, so being competetive on novice is not really something to aim for, at least in my opinion.

    Your gym lifts are wee bit ahead of mine mostly, so for sure you should just jump in to a novice comp asap, get that over and done with and start eyeing up open comps (though Deepsquatter may disagree )
    post edited by veganlifter - 2007/06/20 16:24:25
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    RE: Advice from strongman competitors... 2007/06/20 16:36:12 (permalink)
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    I understand but I've got to start somewhere and get some competition experience if I go straight for an open I could get smoked and won't bother again...

    Plus I've not done any what you could call heavy skill based lifting for a couple of years while being focused more on bodybuilding, so I'm gonna have to get used to handling heavy weights for me and work on increasing my lifts. I should add most if not all those lifts were done drug free and raw apart from a belt at a bw of about 200 lbs, now I'm about 230-240 lbs and not drug free...[;)

    post edited by Paul Marsland - 2007/06/20 16:41:02
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    RE: Advice from strongman competitors... 2007/06/20 17:32:56 (permalink)
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    why not find a novice comp still this year and nail that? See what happens? You would probably place very well judging from your strength levels, majority of the guys are well below that as far as i know.

    or if you try out the implements and they feel ok, there are fair few good u105 comps in the horizon and the weights used there are not crazy!
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    RE: Advice from strongman competitors... 2007/06/20 17:39:41 (permalink)
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    CULLY 2007 Oct

    How about you too Joni ? there is a novic class and open.
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    RE: Advice from strongman competitors... 2007/06/20 17:48:08 (permalink)
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    jonnymills is thinking of doing that!

    I have committed to Fifes Strongest, but lets see what weekend that lands on, rumour has it its in October as well.

    I'd get murdered in the cullys open class though Fife will be heavy but not out of this world i think.
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    RE: Advice from strongman competitors... 2007/06/20 17:58:42 (permalink)
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    Cully, where abouts is that? Also what date in Oct as I go on holiday to Jamaica so the rest will do me good. I'll give it a bash though is ther e any details of the events weights required?
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    RE: Advice from strongman competitors... 2007/06/20 18:04:57 (permalink)
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    Oct 28th. It's near Exeter. Google devon strongman, and you should find it
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    RE: Advice from strongman competitors... 2007/06/20 18:15:05 (permalink)
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    Novice;

    85kg Axle for reps 75sec

    90kg farmers for distance/40m with 1 turn

    Yoke 220kg 20m for time

    Silver Dollar Deadlift ( with straps )

    loading barrels 2x50kg 2x75kg 1x90kg 1x110kg



    Sorted, I'll start training in earnest..............Devon though? Fcuk me that's a long way for a day out!!!
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    RE: Advice from strongman competitors... 2007/06/20 19:44:30 (permalink)
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    ORIGINAL: veganlifter

    so for sure you should just jump in to a novice comp asap, get that over and done with and start eyeing up open comps (though Deepsquatter may disagree )



    Damn you beat me to it;-)

    Stick with a 3 day split routine and heavy all the way, week on week keep adding the weight. Comp. time will come round very quick. If you say you are doing a comp. make sure you do it, it's very easy to find a reason to pull out.

    Keep us updated on your progress.

    DeepSquatter.
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    RE: Advice from strongman competitors... 2007/06/20 19:55:02 (permalink)
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    Novice;

    85kg Axle for reps 75sec

    90kg farmers for distance/40m with 1 turn

    Yoke 220kg 20m for time

    Silver Dollar Deadlift ( with straps )

    loading barrels 2x50kg 2x75kg 1x90kg 1x110kg


    This is out of date I think. There is no novice class now. This is the event as from devonstrongman:

    Updated Event / class list


    venue; yet to be decided

    date; 28th october 2007

    events;
    Ladies event;

    60kg farmers for distance/40m with 1 turn
    60kg Axle for reps 75sec

    Yoke 160-180kg 20m for time

    loading barrels 2x50kg 2x75kg 1x90kg

    U105;

    120kg farmers for distance/40m with 1 turn
    110kg Axle for reps 75sec

    Yoke 280kg 20m for time

    loading barrels 2x75kg 2x90kg 1x100kg 1x110kg

    Open;

    150kg farmers for distance/40m with 1 turn ( one drop )
    130kg Axle for reps 75sec ( full reps from floor )

    Yoke 350kg 20m for time

    loading barrels 2x75kg 1x90kg 1x110kg 1x 130kg 1x140kg Field Stone.

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