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Alcohol Whilst On A Cut?

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2009/07/29 00:14:21 (permalink)
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Alcohol Whilst On A Cut?

I'm currently cutting following a diet which consists of 2300 Kcals per day.  I'm trying to get from 20% bodyfat down to around 12%.  The thing is, every week on a Wednesday I have a Poker night round at my house with some friends & we each have a few drinks.  Now as I'm cutting, I strictly stick to Vodka & diet coke but usually end up having a 35cl bottle during the night.

Apparently this is around 750 Kcals per bottle therefore I'm just wondering whether or not there is any way around this.  I know the general answer would most likely be "don't drink" but I'm 21 & trying to enjoy my life as much as possible without sacrificing too much fun/happiness for the sake of becoming anally obsessed with bodybuilding.  I like the sport yeah, don't get me wrong, but I don't want it to control my life.

During the week I'm extremely strict with my cutting diet, making sure I follow it to an absolute 'T'.  I weigh all my food with digital scales etc & it's been going alright so far, I'm not bored of it yet but I feel if I was to give up things such as enjoying myself every so often that I'd end up getting bored with it all & just give up completely in regards to cutting etc.

I'm just not sure how exactly this will affect my cutting progress & whether or not I should reduce calories during the day before drinking at night in order to stop the 750 Kcals from the vodka affecting me TOO much.

What do you guys suggest?  Like I said above though, I know people will be thinking "its simple, just don't drink" but like I also explained above, I get a lot of enjoyment out of it & it's not like I'm binge drinking 5 days a week.  And finally, maybe you guys can suggest an alternative alcoholic drink to vodka?  I'm not sure if there is one really, I thought Vodka was the lowest calorie drink out of them all, but I could be mistaken.

Thanks :)
post edited by Bodybizzler87 - 2009/07/29 00:16:42
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    MikeS
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    Re:Alcohol Whilst On A Cut? 2009/07/29 07:32:47 (permalink)
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    If your not dieting for anything specific and have no time limits I wouldnt worry. Just eat clean 90% of the time, train hard and enjoy life.

    That said if you have given yourself a spefici goal/time limit then alcohol is strictly off limits. Alcohol slows protein synthesis which means your recovery is lessend and you wont build any muscle. Alcohol also slows everything else down in your body since your body cannot metabolise alcohol it has to get rid of that first before it can even contemplate using any protein/carbs/fats you consume either before or after your drinking.

    The only thing I'd say is try halving your carbs on the day you drink or the day after and see how that works out.

    Of course not drinking at all would be the best option.
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    Re:Alcohol Whilst On A Cut? 2009/07/29 07:47:07 (permalink)
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    Do you really think you have to have a drink to have fun? Is your personality so dull that you need a drink to be social? I'm sure the answer to both is "no". Try it for 3 weeks and see what a difference it makes and you never know you may end up winning more.
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    Re:Alcohol Whilst On A Cut? 2009/07/29 16:40:22 (permalink)
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    The way I understand it, the higher the alcohol percentage the higher the calories. The concept of lower calories in vodka works out only because you consume less of it because you're a sensible person and don't get drunk! ;) A similar principal applies to beer vs wine... wine contains fewer calories glass to glass, but whoever drinks just one glass of wine or one glass of vodka!? If you're like me you also consume all drinks at the same rate, water or vodka!

    Unfortunately in our culture we do love to get pissed and for that reason you normally end up drinking more than you should which adds quite a few calories, especially when you drink high alcohol percentage drinks in large quantities.

    IMO the best idea is to drink more fluid with less alcohol in it, use half measures and a bigger glass. It will take you longer to consume the alcohol, you will visit the toilet more often and feel more full as you drink your larger glass - all of this will slow consumption. You just have to remember to take your cards with you! ;)

    Try Coke Zero too... IMO it tastes far better than diet.
     
    NB Not sure I agree with the approach of the mod - good intentions and all though.
    post edited by Scaryant - 2009/07/29 16:44:06
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    Re:Alcohol Whilst On A Cut? 2009/07/29 17:06:00 (permalink)
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    In all honesty, I wouldn't worry about it. If you are not 100% committed to the diet and don't want it to take over as an obsession then simply don't let it, have fun. To be honest, if I ever have a night out, I just make sure I work any possible bad effects off throughout the next week, i.e. CV work after weights maybe an extra day.

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    Re:Alcohol Whilst On A Cut? 2009/07/29 17:42:23 (permalink)
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    Bodybizzler87

    I'm currently cutting following a diet which consists of 2300 Kcals per day.  I'm trying to get from 20% bodyfat down to around 12%.  ...

    ...I'm 21 & trying to enjoy my life as much as possible without sacrificing too much fun/happiness for the sake of becoming anally obsessed with bodybuilding.  I like the sport yeah, don't get me wrong, but I don't want it to control my life...


     ...Like I said above though, I know people will be thinking "its simple, just don't drink" but like I also explained above, I get a lot of enjoyment out of it & it's not like I'm binge drinking 5 days a week. 



    I've snipped out the bits I want to focus on.
    Apologies if this seems too basic- but it sounds to me like there is a slight cognitive dissonance going on.

    No disrespect intended but it sounds pretty much like you are asking for validation of the 'don't worry, enjoy your life' side of the argument.

    It totally depends on you and how dedicated you want to be to losing weight.
    20% is still a healthy body fat percentage- you don't need to lose weight.
    If you want to drop from 20% to 12% then alcohol is going to make it more difficult.
    It won't be impossible, it will just take longer if you don't compensate in some manner (like cutting other carbs... the ones that aren't empty).
    Cutting good food in order to be able to drink alcohol cannot be recommended really, but plenty of people do it.

    Alcohol will change your metabolism, primarily affecting protein synthesis but also you will be dehydrated and vitamin depleted.

    However there are worse things you can do for yourself- I used to do cocaine rather than drink when on a cut. That is definitely worse for a person. Try halving your alcohol intake at least though.
    If I was in your shoes I would simply say to myself 'I am on a cut, it isn't forever, just do the right thing and then reward yourself at the end'. 
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    Re:Alcohol Whilst On A Cut? 2009/07/29 18:59:59 (permalink)
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    Personally I would enjoy your once a week indulgence.  If it's just the alcohol and not loads of junk food (which often goes hand in hand with booze, well it does for me lol) .... then it's 750 cals.  Do an hours cardio to balance the books.
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    Re:Alcohol Whilst On A Cut? 2009/07/29 19:54:17 (permalink)
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    I agree with what's been said here. It's about balance, and I think if you're overly strict, you'll end up resenting it all, getting fed up with it, and probably more likely to fall off the wagon in a major way.

    Sure, it will slow things up, but if you're careful the rest of the time, do  a bit of extra cardio to compensate for the excess, and are willing to be patient, then you'll reach your target, without feeling resentful, or like you're losing out on life. I don't think training that makes you miserable is worth it. Its supposed to enhance your life, not make you feel bad.
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    Re:Alcohol Whilst On A Cut? 2009/07/29 21:38:34 (permalink)
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    Once a week wont do too much harm, just dont drink too much and go for a good strong jogg the following morning or morning before.


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    Re:Alcohol Whilst On A Cut? 2009/07/29 21:55:29 (permalink)
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    Half a bottle of vodka a week, won't effect a diet if the rest is sorted imo.

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    Re:Alcohol Whilst On A Cut? 2009/07/30 11:44:36 (permalink)
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    I agree with what's been said here. It's about balance, and I think if you're overly strict, you'll end up resenting it all, getting fed up with it, and probably more likely to fall off the wagon in a major way.


    This is the point I try hard to hammer across.   Were not world class athletes here!  Were just going in the correct direction with our health and fat loss is a part of that.  It should be fun, not hard work.  Personally id rather be fat and happy than skinny and sad.  As it goes I enjoy my training and diet and am more lean than ever and very happy too.  I could have got here in half the time if I ate a pro athlete diet but id have been back to the chippy in no time and as such far further back. 

    Im my opinion setting a realistic and overall goal of good health and happiness that is achievable in a given time is all part and parcel of total health.

    Of course this all goes out of the window if your Arnie and earning 80k a competition.  Until that day comes Ill keep training hard, eating healthy 90% of the time and relishing in the results.

    Some great advise on this thread. 

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