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2009/07/29 16:55:31 (permalink)
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Alpine Climbing/ Winter climbing Fitness

Yo,
Im after some advice regarding the above. Hopefully off to the alps next August for 2 weeks climbing, possibly a Mt Blanc summit.

At the moment, im out walking once a month in the hills usually 10m or over.
Running 2/3 times a week between 4-7 miles. Climbing 1/2 twice a week in doors/out doors.
What could i add fitness wise? I like mountain biking also. I usually roll out of bed and go running straight away its very hilly where i live. Would running with a bad help or hinder?
 
Thanks
 
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    Sheeps_Clothing
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    Re:Alpine Climbing/ Winter climbing Fitness 2009/07/29 21:04:51 (permalink)
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    Haven't got any advice mate, but sounds like an awesome trip. Would like to hear how you're doing mate- i'll drop you a message on FB when i've got time.

    As for fitness, I am far from an expert lol, but it's the altitude I would have thought that is the real issue, as well as carrying a heavy burgen which I assume you would be doing?

    So you're looking at endurance and working on lower oxygen in the air.

    The military do stuff like this all the time; sure there will be some info somewhere.

    Good luck mate and let us know how you get on.
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    Re:Alpine Climbing/ Winter climbing Fitness 2009/07/29 21:09:00 (permalink)
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    which route you intending on doing ?

    tbh unless you are taking a technical route climbing 1-2 times a week is unnecesary. long days in the hills are what you really need and if you can find someone whos prepared to help you get some winter routes in in scotland (lakes or wales is an alternative)
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    Sheeps_Clothing
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    Re:Alpine Climbing/ Winter climbing Fitness 2009/07/29 21:09:05 (permalink)
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    Check this out mate, can't tell how good it is but gives you an idea:

    http://www.bodyresults.com/e2alpsub.asp
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    Re:Alpine Climbing/ Winter climbing Fitness 2009/07/30 09:34:15 (permalink)
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    Morning,

    Scotland wise, itll be 3-4 munro's over a week.

    Alps - 10 days in swiss alps so 3-4 4000m peaks. Then 3 days to get up Mt Blanc, probably the Gouter Route. Not sure just yet. Havent finalised anything.

    Obviously i cant go out to the hills every week day. So running and cycling are my best two options.
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    Re:Alpine Climbing/ Winter climbing Fitness 2009/07/30 14:44:01 (permalink)
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    i soloed the gouter route a few years back and if summit day starts from tete rousse its awesome but a long day (starting from tete rousse on summit day means you cross the grand couloir the first time when its well frozen and safer) also means you get to climb the gouter ridge at night which is fun. would probably suggest cycling rather than running due to being less stressful on the joints but if your body is ok with running then running would probably be my preferance. my biggest piece of advise you be acclimatisation and experience of long days are the key
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    Re:Alpine Climbing/ Winter climbing Fitness 2009/07/30 15:55:35 (permalink)
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    wicked thanks. How much Climbing climbing is on the route up? Looks like a steep walk more then anything !

    Looks interesting for sure, more looking forward to winter munro bashing

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    Re:Alpine Climbing/ Winter climbing Fitness 2009/07/30 18:38:40 (permalink)
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    up to tete rousse its a steep walk on well worn but not always good trail, at tete rouse it becomes snow for a while and you cross the grand couloir (not too scarey but exposed when done at night, in contrast to exposed and pure terror once everything warms up in the day). from the other side of the couloir up to very nice sustained scramble up to the gouter hut after the gouter hut its a long snow plod to the summit (gets exposed after vallot hut)
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    Re:Alpine Climbing/ Winter climbing Fitness 2009/07/31 12:50:57 (permalink)
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    The couloir does look fun! as does the ladders down to the glacier.

    What other expeds have you been on?

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    Re:Alpine Climbing/ Winter climbing Fitness 2009/07/31 18:07:15 (permalink)
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    other expeditions have included SE face Nelion on Mt Kenya, Kilimanjaro, Elbrus, Aconcagua as well as some new routing on the Georgian/Russian/Chechen borders
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    Re:Alpine Climbing/ Winter climbing Fitness 2009/08/01 23:28:51 (permalink)
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    I did a similar  thing last  July spent 3 days up on the Mont Blanc Massif gradually getting higher and acclimatising then 2 days to up to the Mont Blanc Summit and back.

    I didn't find it physically that taxing, it wasn't easy but I was never struggling either. I didn't do any training before I went, not even weights as I had  tweaked my lower back in  February and  didn't want to risk  making it worse and missing the trip.

    The other 4 blokes I went with all managed it with little training, though 2 did find it very hard and  at points thought they wouldn't make it but managed to push on, they were quite overweight  and out of shape.

    I found it the easiest from my group, the only difference between me and the others is they all had desk jobs and I was working 12 hour shifts on my feet all day.

    So I think you could be alright as you are but saying that the fitter you are the easier the climb will feel allowing you to enjoy the whole experience more.

    The rock climbing section isn't technically difficult just scrambling for a couple of hours.

      
      
    post edited by dempsey - 2009/08/01 23:32:04
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    Re:Alpine Climbing/ Winter climbing Fitness 2009/08/03 09:08:34 (permalink)
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    Sounds good, id rather climbing Elbrus but not to sure about operators.

    I was out in the lakes 3 weeks ago and found it really hard work on the legs, even when running i find it hard to break into a decent stride. Could all the heavy squatting i used to do have an effect on the muscles in some way? used to max effort for short periods not constant effort

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    Re:Alpine Climbing/ Winter climbing Fitness 2009/08/03 16:08:16 (permalink)
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    tbh Elbrus was quite a boring climb by the standard route if i every considered it again it would have to be a snowboard decent from the saddle
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    Re:Alpine Climbing/ Winter climbing Fitness 2009/08/05 10:05:02 (permalink)
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    Sounds like a good trip mate and your prep is probably plenty. I'd work on cycling and uphill running as much as poss to build up my calves and prep your knees for the gruelling downhills.

    Just done the zugspitze in germany 2960m with not too much prep. You might want to work on your endurance. Certainly up to 3000m you probably wont have any problems with altitude, but over and above that I'm not qualified to comment.

    Good luck
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    Re:Alpine Climbing/ Winter climbing Fitness 2009/08/10 08:32:49 (permalink)
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    lost

    tbh Elbrus was quite a boring climb by the standard route if i every considered it again it would have to be a snowboard decent from the saddle


    It just leaves the door wide open for the seven summits then! thats all im thinking.
     
    Im still off at the moment with a broken foot hopefully i can start biking again soon
     
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