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2014/11/13 08:00:12 (permalink)
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Any aquarium owners?

Do any of you own an aquarium? I have a 520 litre tank and I have just built a stand for a new 1114 litre tank.

Some may think it's stupid but I love my big fish, I have Oscars, a jaguar, several other nice big fish.
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    Re: Any aquarium owners? 2014/11/13 08:53:54 (permalink)
    Not an aquarium owner but I love them to death. One of the best parts about working/living in Dubai was the amount of truly awesome ones i saw daily. The one in my office was incredible. 
     
    A few years ago I very nearly got a large aquarium to house a couple of Cat Sharks and a Marine set up. The only thing that stopped me was the weight and the fact my then apartment floor wouldn't have held it lol. 
     
     
    1000l is a big tank how much will it all weigh with rock and stand etc? Must be pretty industrial set up. 
     
    I do still have a very large pond which is basically the same size as a smalls swimming pool for my 8 Koi carp the biggest of which nudges 20lbs 

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    Re: Any aquarium owners? 2014/11/13 09:05:28 (permalink)
    The new tank is 7x2.5x2.3 and it's a freshwater set up, it will weigh around 1200kg.
    You'd be surprised how much your floor can hold, I have wooden joists it holds my current tank no issue and that must be 600kg.
    The new tank will be 2ft longer so it will run over more joists, I might reinforce the floor though for peace of mind.
    If you look at what some tank stands are made up of, my 520 litre tank is held up with cheap mdf boards so if 8 18mm mdf boards can hold up such a heavy tank then several floor joists will be fine.... My new stand I built myself from 2x4s it's that strong it could hold my house up, the stand probably weighs 200kg

    I've never heard of a tank falling through a floor in the UK, in a flat you could get a 260 litre tank and still be safe.

    They are lovely to look at, I do need to change 50% of the water each week but it's as simple as a hose out the window and filled up with another hose.

    It's a big talking point in my house, everyone loves it.

    We had a big tank in dubai when I lived there, well it was a'lain we stayed.
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    Re: Any aquarium owners? 2014/11/13 10:18:39 (permalink)
    Yeah the tank I looked at was 8x3x3 very big lots of weight for a top floor apartment. Its funny though because they were paranoid about it going trough the ceiling or flooding the place. Yet when i asked about putting a hot to on the balcony they were ok with it lol

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    Re: Any aquarium owners? 2014/11/13 10:35:21 (permalink)
    Pics chaps, we need pics!
     
    I love fish and have a fascination with the water ever since I as a child. My granddad had a lovely big pond full of koi and I was fascinated from there.  
     
    Since then, I've owned a few tropical tanks, and loved it. I had some cracking tiger barbs, corydoras and the classic pleco. Along with a host of tetras, danios, mollys and plattys. 
     
    I intend to get another one day once my kids are older and I have a bit more cash to spend. I'd love a pond too but my current garden isn't ideal sadly.
     
     

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    Re: Any aquarium owners? 2014/11/13 10:45:32 (permalink)
    I've tried to upload photos using but it comes up with an error, I'm on an android phone I'll try on laptop when I'm home.

    I've had loads of tanks but it's never big enough, the new tank is the biggest that can fit in my house or I'd have gone bigger.

    My fish are vicious, they'll swallow any fish whole that can fit in their mouths.

    An 8x3x3 that's some tank that must weigh close to two tonnes especially if it's a saltwater set up, I'd only risk that on concrete floors.

    There's a company called fish fantastic that build custom tanks extremely cheaply, much cheaper than buying a brand name tank.

    I'll upload videos to YouTube when I'm home on Monday and put the links up here
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    Re: Any aquarium owners? 2014/11/13 10:46:43 (permalink)
    It says failed to open selected file when I try and upload the ones I have on my phone
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    Re: Any aquarium owners? 2014/12/06 09:44:29 (permalink)
    Some fish photos and my current 520 litre tank and my new stand for my next 1114 litre tank.

    Fish have changed a little now, it's mainly the big Oscars and the jaguar all will need the bigger tank since they'll get pretty big.
    The jaguar has some set of teeth on it, not good if you need to put your hand in the tank because it will attack me.


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    Re: Any aquarium owners? 2014/12/06 09:50:56 (permalink)
    Running two of these filters, absolutely massive but I have big messy fish.
    Uses alot of electricity for the two filters two heaters and 4x 40w bulbs for plant growth



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    Re: Any aquarium owners? 2014/12/06 11:41:17 (permalink)
    had a 400 litre tank for a while was mainly cichlids  with Oscars, convicts , JD , Severums, had a Jewel cichlid which is probably the most aggressive fish I have ever owned , stripped the fins of Oscars 3 times its size and pretty much destroyed everything in the tank , do not buy !
     
    then turned it into a marine tank , but soon realise Marine are better purpose built and you really need a reservoir/sump with as much water out of the visible tank than what's in the tank to keep fish stocks high but Nitrates low , sold up and plan on buying a full  setup at some point in the future , will probably spend around £2500
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    Re: 2014/12/06 15:39:03 (permalink)
    Yeah marine needs a sump, I could get a sump for my next tank but decided against it. A jaguar is more aggressive than a jewel, most aggressive is a dovi it'll kill everything. I'm actually going to rehome my jaguar, the rest of the cichlids are terrified of him.
    My next tank is a custom tank, I've yet to finish building my stand and perhaps reinforce the floor.
    It's not as easy as some think keeping fish, I've had big tanks for years the next one is 7x2.5x2.3 and will weigh around 1500kg once filled including the stand. The tank weight empty will be about 140kg and an awkward shape, won't be fun getting it in the house
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    Re: 2014/12/06 19:29:40 (permalink)
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    Yeah marine needs a sump, I could get a sump for my next tank but decided against it. A jaguar is more aggressive than a jewel, most aggressive is a dovi it'll kill everything. I'm actually going to rehome my jaguar, the rest of the cichlids are terrified of him.
    My next tank is a custom tank, I've yet to finish building my stand and perhaps reinforce the floor.
    It's not as easy as some think keeping fish, I've had big tanks for years the next one is 7x2.5x2.3 and will weigh around 1500kg once filled including the stand. The tank weight empty will be about 140kg and an awkward shape, won't be fun getting it in the house

    hadn't seen the Dovi before ,Christ they look stupidly aggressive, thy actually look like they could take a chunk out of your hand  , the jewel was like having a wasp in the tank there here plenty of times I felt like fishing it out and taking it back which I did in the end , I love watching cichlid rivalry's where they co exist in the same tank but have territories , Oscars clumsy friendly fish that constantly swim through other fish's territories and then retreat or eat the threatening fish , but the jewel was just chasing everything around nipping  everything .
     
    1500kg filled sounds like a massive weight , would definitely have a reinforced floor as once it starts going your in the sh1t, would also consider a drain hole to outside in case the worst happens because that would flood your whole ground floor , ive had a filter pipe come off before and it slowly emptied the tank onto the floor .
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    Re: 2014/12/07 08:32:22 (permalink)
    My two filter hoses are held on with clamps that should be fine, the tank there now probably weighs 700kg filled and across from it is my new stand which is about 130kg and my family and I sit on the new stand and watch the fish and the floor is fine.

    Spoke to a civil engineer and a construction engineer they said it'll be fine but I'll probably run 1x 2x4 along the joists or some wooden soldiers under each joist.
    I think if it flooded it'd slowly just drain into the damp proofing, it's next to a window so if it started to leak I could empty it in ten minutes.

    The dovi is an absolute monster, the jaguar will grow to around 18 inches and I've decided to get rid it's not worth putting my other fish at risk.

    I've had small community fish before there not as hardy usually didn't last long and not as much character. It's likely it'll be an Oscar only tank eventually
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    Re: 2016/04/28 15:43:01 (permalink)
    Just bumping this for some info. I am after a fish tank and thinking of a Chic lid one. Whats the min size you need for a decent tank and roughly how many can you fit in it? I was thinking something about 4x2x2 size? Is that big enough? 
     
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    Re: 2016/04/28 15:57:58 (permalink)
    4x 2 x 2 is a good size tank are you thinking african cichlids or american either way i think you should consider it having a sump 
    american cichlids oscars  are supposed to be something like 1 for every 50 gall so you wont get many in 
    i just closed down my 4x2 x2 african malawi tank i had about 80 fish in and plenty of space for more colours so much more vibrant than americans which i find rather sulky compared
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    Re: 2016/04/28 16:32:29 (permalink)
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    Yeah marine needs a sump, I could get a sump for my next tank but decided against it. A jaguar is more aggressive than a jewel, most aggressive is a dovi it'll kill everything. I'm actually going to rehome my jaguar, the rest of the cichlids are terrified of him.
    My next tank is a custom tank, I've yet to finish building my stand and perhaps reinforce the floor.
    It's not as easy as some think keeping fish, I've had big tanks for years the next one is 7x2.5x2.3 and will weigh around 1500kg once filled including the stand. The tank weight empty will be about 140kg and an awkward shape, won't be fun getting it in the house

    hadn't seen the Dovi before ,Christ they look stupidly aggressive, thy actually look like they could take a chunk out of your hand  , the jewel was like having a wasp in the tank there here plenty of times I felt like fishing it out and taking it back which I did in the end , I love watching cichlid rivalry's where they co exist in the same tank but have territories , Oscars clumsy friendly fish that constantly swim through other fish's territories and then retreat or eat the threatening fish , but the jewel was just chasing everything around nipping  everything .
     
    1500kg filled sounds like a massive weight , would definitely have a reinforced floor as once it starts going your in the sh1t, would also consider a drain hole to outside in case the worst happens because that would flood your whole ground floor , ive had a filter pipe come off before and it slowly emptied the tank onto the floor .


    and thats why i prefer sumps they can only drain out to a set level once the  level is not as high as weir jobs a good un no more water leakage i got bored of americans i had oscars with jack dempseys and a few dither fish i had a polleni for a while but realised fast why it was a species only fish 
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    Re: Any aquarium owners? 2016/04/30 09:09:51 (permalink)
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    I do need to change 50% of the water each week but it's as simple as a hose out the window and filled up with another hose.




    Sounds excessive water changing, do you really need to change half the water weekly?
    Every water change alters the chemical balance of the tank, causes temperature changes and stresses your fish, bigger the change, more alteration to water and more stress to fish.
    Weekly 10-15% water change should be sufficient, depending on planting and stocking.
    Do you use water test kit to check water quality?
    If you have good filtration there should be no need to change anywhere near that much water, especially in a tank with little or no planting.
    I know removing the crap makes a tank look nice but the main point of water changes is to control the build up of nitrates.
    I always take the attitude I'm looking after the water not the fish.
     
     
     

     
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    Re: Any aquarium owners? 2016/04/30 11:27:02 (permalink)
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    I do need to change 50% of the water each week but it's as simple as a hose out the window and filled up with another hose.




    Sounds excessive water changing, do you really need to change half the water weekly?
    Every water change alters the chemical balance of the tank, causes temperature changes and stresses your fish, bigger the change, more alteration to water and more stress to fish.
    Weekly 10-15% water change should be sufficient, depending on planting and stocking.
    Do you use water test kit to check water quality?
    If you have good filtration there should be no need to change anywhere near that much water, especially in a tank with little or no planting.
    I know removing the crap makes a tank look nice but the main point of water changes is to control the build up of nitrates.
    I always take the attitude I'm looking after the water not the fish.
     
     
     


    pretty much old school thinking and depends what you keep .....african cichlids thrive on clean water i used to do bi weekly 50% water changes as for temperature changes affecting well  the natural lakes and rivers differ in temperatures one minute they could be swimming in water 5 degrees lower  your more inclined to get disease and problems not doing the changes american i used to change 20% bi weekly 
    also water changes mimic rain downpours which bring down the temperature of water in the natural settings and also sets off a breeding frenzy 
    i know a few people what actually do 10% daily water changes
    water preparation is the key but i can honestly say i have not heard of many problems changing 50% unless it is a tank whats not been changed for months then in that case yes it will shock the fish because they have adapted to the nitrogen build up 
     
    unless your keeping wilds the fish you buy from fish shops dont even know natural ph levels anyway simply because of the inbreeding due to limited bloodlines available
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    Re: Any aquarium owners? 2016/04/30 11:57:09 (permalink)
    Had a tank when I lived at my parents, used to have all sorts of tropical fish. Bought a couple of silver dollars once and slowly but surely all the other fish started to disappear. They still have the 5 foot tank with only one silver dollar left in it, wish I noted when I bought it cause I reckon its about 12-14 years old now.

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    Re: Any aquarium owners? 2016/04/30 12:09:38 (permalink)
    dollars are closely related to the piranha i used to have them as dither fish in the oscar tank they go well together and yes you will lose smaller fish to them they will eat whatever  can go into mouth.. its doing well for age i think the lifespan is 10-12 years
     
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