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Anyone going on the Hyde Park Unions March this Saturday?

Anyone going on the Hyde Park Unions March this Saturday?

Yes   15% (3)
No   85% (17)
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2011/03/24 18:18:46 (permalink)

Anyone going on the Hyde Park Unions March this Saturday?

As a public sector worker not impressed by the cuts the government has been making to front line services I will be at the march.  Was not thinking it was going to be that big but was told that it might be as big as the march against war on Iraq.  So just wondering if this is something MT members might be going on or have no interest in at all.  Just a poll out of curiosity more than anything..
 
Info on http://www.unison.org.uk/asppresspack/pressrelease_view.asp?id=2235
post edited by hambo - 2011/03/24 18:30:29
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    rob211080
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    Re:Anyone going on the Hyde Park Unions March this Saturday? 2011/03/24 18:58:24 (permalink)
    No,and i think it's about time the public sector was scaled down TBH.The only thing i think is wrong is there aren't enough of the managers being shown the door.
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    Re:Anyone going on the Hyde Park Unions March this Saturday? 2011/03/24 19:41:22 (permalink)
    No, not a public sector worker but wouldn't support union action even if I was.
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    Re:Anyone going on the Hyde Park Unions March this Saturday? 2011/03/24 20:20:35 (permalink)
    Union scum. Public sectors a joke speaking as an ex civil servant myselt get rid of 50% of the lazy ****ers then take another 25% for good measure. It would be cheaper to pay them JSA than there inflated wages and ludicrous pension plans.
     
     

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    Re:Anyone going on the Hyde Park Unions March this Saturday? 2011/03/24 20:25:12 (permalink)
    A lot of public sector workers pay a BIG contribuion to their' ludicrous pension plans' mate.... you're talking between 8 and 15% of their SALARY. i'd imagine more in certain professions.

    It doesn't come for free.... maybe you should have a read into the exact figures before people start thinking you're a Johnny Gobsh1te. Then after paying this amount over the space of their ENTIRE CAREER 30/40/50 years....  they get shafted on the numbers when they finally come to cash it in.

    I fvcking despise this Government, they've somehow managed to convince everybody it was the fault of the public sector and now their employees are left to pay the price. Granted though... on a staffing level things could be vastly improved, too many chiefs and all that.. too many cushty jobs for pals of the bosses.... if that means a few job losses i can deal with that.

    Have a look at the MP's pension scheme if you want to see a ludicrous example... but the cvnts ring fenced it so..... there you go.


    But Cameron says "we're all in this together " so it's no problem at all is it?

    THE RAT FACED LITTLE PRICK

    And no, i won't be there... i'm working
    post edited by Doink - 2011/03/24 20:28:20
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    Re:Anyone going on the Hyde Park Unions March this Saturday? 2011/03/24 20:29:53 (permalink)
    oh yeah..... they've just bombed the fvck out of Libya at a million pound a pop for the bombs and ordnance....

    Job's have to go though...... There's no money.

    What a load of bollocks!
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    Re:Anyone going on the Hyde Park Unions March this Saturday? 2011/03/24 20:31:49 (permalink)
    Lol spend a little time doing your homework also many here remember some of the free services you have been used to because in a few years you'll be paying for them (essential services not those you can do without).
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    Re:Anyone going on the Hyde Park Unions March this Saturday? 2011/03/24 20:34:00 (permalink)
    If that was aimed at me, i have no idea what you're talking about?
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    Re:Anyone going on the Hyde Park Unions March this Saturday? 2011/03/24 20:34:26 (permalink)
    Dav

    Lol spend a little time doing your homework also many here remember some of the free services you have been used to because in a few years you'll be paying for them (essential services not those you can do without).

    But we are paying for them now.
    Or do the wages, pensions, etc. of these people magically appear?
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    Re:Anyone going on the Hyde Park Unions March this Saturday? 2011/03/24 20:34:53 (permalink)
    Yip and if it hadn't been for the insane recruitment  drive of Labour we would all still have free top notch services and the public sector workers would still get their pensions. If you don't want the numbers cut then you'll get no pension. Life's a b**ch.

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    Re:Anyone going on the Hyde Park Unions March this Saturday? 2011/03/24 20:35:29 (permalink)
    Doink

    A lot of public sector workers pay a BIG contribuion to their' ludicrous pension plans' mate.... you're talking between 8 and 15% of their SALARY. i'd imagine more in certain professions.

    It doesn't come for free.... maybe you should have a read into the exact figures before people start thinking you're a Johnny Gobsh1te. Then after paying this amount over the space of their ENTIRE CAREER 30/40/50 years....  they get shafted on the numbers when they finally come to cash it in.

    I fvcking despise this Government, they've somehow managed to convince everybody it was the fault of the public sector and now their employees are left to pay the price. Granted though... on a staffing level things could be vastly improved, too many chiefs and all that.. too many cushty jobs for pals of the bosses.... if that means a few job losses i can deal with that.

    Have a look at the MP's pension scheme if you want to see a ludicrous example... but the cvnts ring fenced it so..... there you go.


    But Cameron says "we're all in this together " so it's no problem at all is it?

    THE RAT FACED LITTLE PRICK

    And no, i won't be there... i'm working

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    I pay 11% into my pension its quite a lump every month

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    Re:Anyone going on the Hyde Park Unions March this Saturday? 2011/03/24 20:39:55 (permalink)
    Same randy, 11% and it's going up to 13% shortly i believe.... These cvnts think we get it all for fvck all.

    Either way we'll get our pensions, It's not optional for the government. They sell us our pensions believe it or not and we BUY into them with OUR OWN MONEY. They've sold us a pension and if they try to renage on the deal then the law suit would probably send them under as they wouldn't have a leg to stand on, it would be the biggest fraud since the RBS paid their employees a bonus this year!

    Oh and on another note, we as the taxpayers own 70% of the shares of RBS do we not?.... Surely that means that when the yearly dividends are given out our share should be paid to each and every one us?..... or at least directly to the government on our behalf, maybe they could give us relief on our council tax for the equivalent??? So if the managing director gets a few million quid bonus for sending them under, surely we as the tax payer should recieve a bigger bonus for bailing them out?

    LOL NO BECAUSE IT'S ALREADY SPENT ON GROSSLY INFLATED BONUSES TO THE EMPLOYEES WHO SENT THEM UNDER AND BUNGS!

    I fvcking hate the way this country has gone.... this is why i never discuss politics, i'll be here all night taking bollocks now.
     
     
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    Re:Anyone going on the Hyde Park Unions March this Saturday? 2011/03/24 20:44:24 (permalink)
    Doink

    A lot of public sector workers pay a BIG contribuion to their' ludicrous pension plans' mate.... you're talking between 8 and 15% of their SALARY. i'd imagine more in certain professions.

    It doesn't come for free.... maybe you should have a read into the exact figures before people start thinking you're a Johnny Gobsh1te. Then after paying this amount over the space of their ENTIRE CAREER 30/40/50 years....  they get shafted on the numbers when they finally come to cash it in.

    I fvcking despise this Government, they've somehow managed to convince everybody it was the fault of the public sector and now their employees are left to pay the price. Granted though... on a staffing level things could be vastly improved, too many chiefs and all that.. too many cushty jobs for pals of the bosses.... if that means a few job losses i can deal with that.

    Have a look at the MP's pension scheme if you want to see a ludicrous example... but the cvnts ring fenced it so..... there you go.


    But Cameron says "we're all in this together " so it's no problem at all is it?

    THE RAT FACED LITTLE PRICK

    And no, i won't be there... i'm working

     
    Yes your quite right I used to pay 8% into mine possibly more however what I objected to was the insane contribution by the govt which is massive compared other contributable private sector pension plans... As for reading the figures you can forget about that as they are all bull**** I should know I used to create them for the govt as a statistician. So you can think im Jonny Gob**** I dont care aside from NHS, Fire, Armed forces Police etc the mundane jobs worth office paper pushing types are a waste of space. Who gives a **** you work for 40 years you feel obliged to a fat pay out on the state for adding how much value exactly to society very little for most civil servants 

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    Re:Anyone going on the Hyde Park Unions March this Saturday? 2011/03/24 20:47:14 (permalink)
    Personally I think it's important to have nurses, teaching assistants, those that assist youth or otherwise into employment, cleaners etc etc.  Cuts are affecting these groups of employees as well as loads of others. 
     
    It amazes me though how the banks are let off scot free.  Irresponsible lending, stocks and shares fiasco, tax payers bailing them out when it would have been wiser to just let the banks go bust and then the government step in and take it over rather than the situation we have now with them still getting paid absurd amounts in bonuses living the high life, not being penalised whilst frontline workers get hit.  Something doesnt seem right to me there.
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    Re:Anyone going on the Hyde Park Unions March this Saturday? 2011/03/24 20:49:23 (permalink)
    Banks should have been let go bust and government workers should be cut back to the absolute minimum.

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    Re:Anyone going on the Hyde Park Unions March this Saturday? 2011/03/24 20:51:18 (permalink)
    Dionk no I didn't make myself clear no not directed at you, and I'm only referring to the particular areas I know a great deal about.
     
    I'm not for one moment saying that many things can't be improved but in the UK that goes for most companies when it comes to management lol.
     
    Varg I was stating a fact, some of the effects are already happening which are affecting many already - you may not know about these as you either don't use the service or don't have access to information that is not in the public domain.
     
    Believe what you will but take note about what I'm saying and look back in 5 years time.
     
    Have you heard about the Public sector paradox with regards to management  very interesting. You are being sold lies and most believe them.
    post edited by Dav - 2011/03/24 21:00:51
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    Re:Anyone going on the Hyde Park Unions March this Saturday? 2011/03/24 20:53:06 (permalink)
    RASPUTIN: So when you said Union scum and tarred us all with the same brush you actually only meant a % of public sector workers and weren't infact slating the entire public sector as it seemed then?....
     
    Bullsh1t aside, i agree with you there about the paper pushers but they do perform a necessary role at the end of the day. They work for the government and as such can't be discriminated against and therefore have to have their own scheme, that's the society we live in. They don't get it for free and they do the jobs they have to do to make a living.

    It's probably one of the few perks of an otherwise mundane role.

    Anyway, Going back to your case.... If the payout was so great then why didn't you hang on in your role and cash it in? Surely if it's how you describe then it had to be unmissable right?
    Clearly something more attractive came along, so it can't have been that fantastic?

    Or you'd still be doing it if it was just that amazing and grossly inflated, you'd have stayed to rape the state right?
     
    Either that Or you were fired in which case you failed and that's life... it goes on.

    The public sector is the public sector, it's being held to the fire due to the failure and ineptitude of this government and the last and also the complete and utter greed of the bankers.

    Once again the working class take the hit and the rich get richer.... No surprise. This 'depression' had fvck all to do with the public sector at the end of the day, the fact that every public sector work is taking a kidney punch because of those wankers sticks in my throat.


    ps the majority of private sector plans don't charge the employee anywhere close to 8%, fully lame comparison


    post edited by Doink - 2011/03/24 21:03:24
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    Re:Anyone going on the Hyde Park Unions March this Saturday? 2011/03/24 21:04:08 (permalink)
    DOINK I was a HEO i think thats the one below grade 7 straight out of uni on a mediocre wage only took the job because I couldnt get a job finance due to the recession had no intention of ever staying there. I make considerably more money doing what I do now and I enjoy my job so it was a win on all accounts 

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    Re:Anyone going on the Hyde Park Unions March this Saturday? 2011/03/24 21:27:27 (permalink)
    I'm also no lover of unions. I believe the bloated inefficiency that grew under Labour needs to be excised and I'm sure a massive saving could be made while actually improving services by stripping back the non-jobs and bureaucracy.
     
    The whole country is taking a hit and it would be madness if the public sector didn't take it's share of that. That's before you consider that the public sector enjoyed overly favourable conditions (in relation to the private sector) before it all kicked off.
     
    As always, nothing is black and white and I'm sure some valuable, hard-working public sector employees are going to get unfairly shafted. I feel sorry for those but it's difficult to feel sympathy for those that got fat on Labour's teat while nobody was cracking the efficiency whip and the unions kept taking the piss with the deficit.
     
    The deficit is enormous and will only keep growing - unsustainable. China will come knocking one day. The public sector doesn't generate any GDP. We need to help the private sector to help dig us out of this hole.
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    Re:Anyone going on the Hyde Park Unions March this Saturday? 2011/03/24 21:27:43 (permalink)
    RASPUTIN: Excellent mate, i'm happy for you... i mean that, good effort.

    But it's this type of attitude that has brought this country to it's knees

    " Fvck those wankers, they've got it too good, they need to be brought down "

    it's never...

    " Oh those guys have got it good, nice one... good for them "

    There's very few perks to working in the public sector outside of the pension scheme as it is, what is this nations obsession with sh1tting on everybody else because they have something worthy of fighting for and want to protect it?

    I doubt i'll see out my pension scheme anyway, i plan to get out of here as soon as i possibly can... if i wasn't working i'd be off their to show my support though.... i just hope it kicks off something royal and Parliament gets blown up with all those scumbag mp's inside....

    that would be a result and a half....


    Gruffy... it was the private sector who dug this hole to begin with, the vast majority of public sector workers did not benefit or 'get fat' from labours teat... look at services...Teachers, Army, Police, NHS, Fire Service, Amubulance service... did they benefit? No... far from it.... But they're taking a good hit as a result.

    The public sector are being hit harder than most... BUT... at least most still have jobs.... and that's something i appreciate.
    post edited by Doink - 2011/03/24 21:31:52
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