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2008/05/17 19:08:04 (permalink)
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Anyone used Atro Phex

I read some good stuff about Atro Phex on the net - just wondered if anyone had tried it and was it any good? I'm after something to help me on my cut - I've been cutting for 2 months, 4 weights sessions a week, 2 HIIT sessions a week and a pretty tight diet but only dropped from 13.8% BF to 12.5% BF. Hoping something like this will give me a bit of help - so is Atro Phex any good?

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    RE: Anyone used Atro Phex 2008/05/17 19:50:43 (permalink)
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    It's a great fat burner. I used it a couple times in the past. Feels almost as strong as ECA, but with an added mood lift...and the pills taste nicer due to the raspberry ketones.

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    RE: Anyone used Atro Phex 2008/05/18 07:15:38 (permalink)
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    Thai - I guess a lot of these types of products are good for some and bad for others?

    It seems everywhere I look, people have a different opinion and different results on whatever supplementation they are taking. Guess the only way to fully know is to try it yourself?

    I have been thinking of trying Atro Phex as my first fat loss supplement to try, but I keep hearing good things about Grenade as well. And ECA. And Hot-Rox. Decisions decisons!
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    RE: Anyone used Atro Phex 2008/05/18 09:32:22 (permalink)
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    ECA (which grenade is) is the best fat burner hands down, ephedrine can be dangerous if you are an idiot (or have a dodge heart) and is prob the reason it is banned in US but it is the best by FAR IMO
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    RE: Anyone used Atro Phex 2008/05/18 10:05:38 (permalink)
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    So - as I have no knowledge of ECA - what are the downsides of ECA? And do the positives outweigh the negatives.

    I'd (obviously) prefer not to take something that could give me a heartattack!! :) Is it better to 'work upto' ECA with less powerful products first?
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    RE: Anyone used Atro Phex 2008/05/18 11:35:36 (permalink)
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    ORIGINAL: thenoble06

    Thai - I guess a lot of these types of products are good for some and bad for others?

    It seems everywhere I look, people have a different opinion and different results on whatever supplementation they are taking. Guess the only way to fully know is to try it yourself?

    I have been thinking of trying Atro Phex as my first fat loss supplement to try, but I keep hearing good things about Grenade as well. And ECA. And Hot-Rox. Decisions decisons!

    Grenade = ECA but Mu Huang is the source of the Eph. In terms of legal stuff, it's also worth thinking of Sida as that's basically another Eph derivative.

    I've never tried hot rox, I know it's really popular as we go through quite a lot, but I'd guess on the ingredients profile it's probably not as strong as the other 2 mentioned. That isn't necessarily a bad thing - ECA can make you feel crap after a couple weeks, and I remember one time after a long cycle of Chest Eze, Aspirin and Pro-Plus tabs my blood pressure was up to 160/80 so as good as ECA is for fat loss, you've got to be careful with it as there are side effects.

    Your right in terms of it being personal - i get little out of plain mono, but loads out of other types of creatine. Same with JW, I've heard of some getting massive gains, expecially on 8wk cycles, but others get very little besides a libido lift.

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    RE: Anyone used Atro Phex 2008/05/18 11:40:01 (permalink)
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    ORIGINAL: thenoble06

    So - as I have no knowledge of ECA - what are the downsides of ECA? And do the positives outweigh the negatives.

    I'd (obviously) prefer not to take something that could give me a heartattack!! :) Is it better to 'work upto' ECA with less powerful products first?

    ECA increases metabolic rate by 3-5%, but also raises resting pulse rate, blood pressure, and can give you jitters (where you shake - usually in the hands - even when trying to stay still).

    Also, since it's so powerful a stimulant, you have massive bursts of energy, followed by massive drops in energy, so when you don't take your afternoon pill....you feel like a slug.

    It's great at supressing appetite, great for weight loss, focus and power in the gym, but you don't feel good on it - at least I don't. I feel naff after a couple weeks on. Like anything, you've got to assess your willingness to take on side effects - and if this is your first fat burner, it might be better trying something a little weaker (e.g. lipo 6 i personally think is pretty weak).

    There will be some other side effects and benefits, but I recon the above points probably cover 98% of them.

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    RE: Anyone used Atro Phex 2008/05/18 11:43:50 (permalink)
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    Top advice Thai.

    Think I'll give Grenade/ECA a miss. Don't want the hassle of the side effects. Think I'll probably try Atro Phex for starters. Anyone know side effects from that?
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    RE: Anyone used Atro Phex 2008/05/18 13:05:54 (permalink)
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    ORIGINAL: thenoble06

    Top advice Thai.

    Think I'll give Grenade/ECA a miss. Don't want the hassle of the side effects. Think I'll probably try Atro Phex for starters. Anyone know side effects from that?

    From personal experience, some up swings and down swings in energy - like every stimulant / most fat burners - but not quite as severe as ECA. I didn't notice anything besides that, but I recall reading about some other stuff on the US boards...can't remeber what...dehydration? no idea...I'd have to check again.

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