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2008/05/19 20:46:57 (permalink)
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Are British workers lazy?

A few months ago my ex-girlfriends father, employed a firm of builders to build an extension at the back of his house.

He's a patriotic guy and was adamant that he'd only employ British builders.

The firm he employed started off well, but after a fortnight they started to slack. They were certainly good at their jobs but started turning up at ten in the morning when they should have been there at eight, and leaving at two when they should have been leaving at four at least.

They messed him about when ordering materials, sometimes trying to get him to pay for materials that were meant for other jobs.

He got rid of them and employed another firm of British bulders, but they too were unreliable and the quality of their workmanship was very poor.

Eventually he bit the bullet and employed a local firm of Builders that were mainly made up of Poles and Hungarians.

They had the job done within a month, when the first bunch of builders had said it would take 10 weeks. They all worked at least ten hours a day, and the job cost roughly ten grand less than the British builders had quoted.

I'm a British worker, and I'm certainly not lazy. I know many other British workers who are also not lazy. So has my ex's dad just been unlucky with the British firms he employed, or is the British work ethic not what is once was?
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    RE: Are British workers lazy? 2008/05/19 20:58:33 (permalink)
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    bit of both imo

    he has been a bit unlucky but having worked closely with poles they really love to crack on and work hard

    having said that - work ethic is not a national thing - theres probably british fellas out there who work hard and non brits who dont

    so i'll leave it at that fairly inconclusive point
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    RE: Are British workers lazy? 2008/05/19 21:15:02 (permalink)
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    but started turning up at ten in the morning when they should have been there at eight, and leaving at two when they should have been leaving at four at least.


    Did they give a reason for it mate, we often have to do this.

    I think people from all over can be lazy but I have to say, the eastern Europeans I`ve worked alongside were good grafters.

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    RE: Are British workers lazy? 2008/05/19 21:15:34 (permalink)
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    I see it all the time you get british workers who can't be bothered and you get some that will graft. personally I am a grafter I would rather stand and work away at something than do nothing. I also find it is the guys that are willing to work that keep getting given every job going which is both good and bad because they can be left to do all the work. Poles and such might well work away but some of them don't have a clue about certain jobs they are in and are crap at it same as Brits.

     


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    RE: Are British workers lazy? 2008/05/19 21:19:18 (permalink)
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    ORIGINAL: H20

    but started turning up at ten in the morning when they should have been there at eight, and leaving at two when they should have been leaving at four at least.


    Did they give a reason for it mate, we often have to do this.
    I think people from all over can be lazy but I have to say, the eastern Europeans I`ve worked alongside were good grafters.


    No, I think if they had given a reason, that would have made it a little better. But they simply told him they'd be there at a certain time and just didn't turn up. No phone call and no apology when they got there. Very disrespectful imo.


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    RE: Are British workers lazy? 2008/05/19 21:20:25 (permalink)
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    yes we are
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    RE: Are British workers lazy? 2008/05/19 21:25:20 (permalink)
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    I saw a programme that said British people work the longest hours but achieve the least. It said in comparison with other EU nations like germany we are the least effecient workers in Europe
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    RE: Are British workers lazy? 2008/05/19 21:26:24 (permalink)
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    vorsprung durch - ah fcuk it

    lol
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    RE: Are British workers lazy? 2008/05/19 21:29:17 (permalink)
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    Bloody germans I thought we bombed all there factories?

     


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    RE: Are British workers lazy? 2008/05/19 21:47:05 (permalink)
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    I tried to buy something from Sainsburys in town at 10.30pm last Saturday.

    The security guard had already closed the door and wouldn't let anyone in. I pointed to the sign that said it closed at 11pm. He just shook his head and shrugged.

    Some are very lazy and should be fired, some are not and are brilliant. Personally I'd prefer it if labour laws were relaxed so people could more easily fire the slackers, but employment protection being what it is, you work hard for your first 13wks and you've got it fairly easy after that (in terms of necessary work ethic).

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    RE: Are British workers lazy? 2008/05/19 21:56:56 (permalink)
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    I find that 'old skool' workers are grafters.. always working, don't take breaks etc... whereas the new workers (18 yr olds, etc..) seem to be far lazier.. complain when they have work to do, always taking breaks, etc... This isn't everybody, just the people i've come across..
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    RE: Are British workers lazy? 2008/05/19 21:59:14 (permalink)
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    ORIGINAL: ThaiFighter

    I tried to buy something from Sainsburys in town at 10.30pm last Saturday.

    The security guard had already closed the door and wouldn't let anyone in. I pointed to the sign that said it closed at 11pm. He just shook his head and shrugged.

    Some are very lazy and should be fired, some are not and are brilliant. Personally I'd prefer it if labour laws were relaxed so people could more easily fire the slackers, but employment protection being what it is, you work hard for your first 13wks and you've got it fairly easy after that (in terms of necessary work ethic).


    Dont agree with that mate. Perhaps last entry to the store is half 10 but shoppers inside can stay in till 11. I know I have worked in clubs that on the door say open till say 4 but last entry is at 3.
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    RE: Are British workers lazy? 2008/05/19 22:10:04 (permalink)
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    ORIGINAL: twint


    ORIGINAL: ThaiFighter

    I tried to buy something from Sainsburys in town at 10.30pm last Saturday.

    The security guard had already closed the door and wouldn't let anyone in. I pointed to the sign that said it closed at 11pm. He just shook his head and shrugged.

    Some are very lazy and should be fired, some are not and are brilliant. Personally I'd prefer it if labour laws were relaxed so people could more easily fire the slackers, but employment protection being what it is, you work hard for your first 13wks and you've got it fairly easy after that (in terms of necessary work ethic).


    Dont agree with that mate. Perhaps last entry to the store is half 10 but shoppers inside can stay in till 11. I know I have worked in clubs that on the door say open till say 4 but last entry is at 3.

    Nah, I've been in late before.

    It says closes at 11pm. You don't need 30mins to get people out of a local mini-supermarket. The closing time should be the closing time - you don't want to piss off customers by suggesting you can run over with 5 mins to spare, and then when they get there find out it's been closed for ages.

    He looked like him and the staff just wanted to shut up shop early and go home. That's fine to feel that way, but they've been paid to stay working till 11, and clear off at 11.15 / 30 whenever the clean up jobs been done.

    If I was paying someone to work with customers till 11pm, and then get the shop ready after that for 30 mins, and they decided to shut at 10.30....I'd blow up, and would be royally pissed off.

    If you're paid to do a job, you should do it imo.

    Note: I agree on Clubs - I know you have specific problems clearing them out and the council enforce a lot of dispersion policies re: them. Most of the time they're not allowed to let in after a certain time too (I know Manc council do that). Supermarkets though, and other retail shops, they're not dealing with piss heads, so I think 11 should mean 11. Managers should pay till 11.15/30 so there's enough time to clean up afterwards....but 10.30 takes the piss.

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    RE: Are British workers lazy? 2008/05/19 22:19:25 (permalink)
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    No, I don't think so, most people work very hard.

    I'm glad you said 'British', Jango, I heard British soldiers described today as 'UK soldiers'. And I read on here once someone talk about 'UKers'. OT but I needed to vent.

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    RE: Are British workers lazy? 2008/05/19 22:34:41 (permalink)
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    Your kiddin aren't you-should see some of these Aussies!!!!!!!!!-on my first day at my first job in Aus-5 guys didn't turn up for work and when I asked why, they replied "The surf was good"

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    RE: Are British workers lazy? 2008/05/19 22:54:44 (permalink)
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    ORIGINAL: Puzzle

    No, I don't think so, most people work very hard.

    I'm glad you said 'British', Jango, I heard British soldiers described today as 'UK soldiers'. And I read on here once someone talk about 'UKers'. OT but I needed to vent.


    What's the difference?

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    RE: Are British workers lazy? 2008/05/19 23:15:11 (permalink)
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    Exactly John, it amounts to the same thing, so given that British is mellifluous, accurate, meaningful, pleasing, and that it is in fact a word, people should use it, and not the cretinous UKer. UK weather, UK people, UK soldiers, UK holidays, UK television, UK this, UK that.

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    RE: Are British workers lazy? 2008/05/19 23:49:53 (permalink)
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    What I have noticed;

    British people (generally) seem to lack work ethic
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    RE: Are British workers lazy? 2008/05/20 12:15:11 (permalink)
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    the UK is Britain and Northern Ireland, Britain is just the mainland.
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    RE: Are British workers lazy? 2008/05/20 14:29:58 (permalink)
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    ORIGINAL: Mark Thompson

    the UK is Britain and Northern Ireland, Britain is just the mainland.


    Yeah, no sh1t.

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