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2005/07/28 14:37:08 (permalink)
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Are special k bars ok as a snack?

I was reading the back of one of their "body fat challange" boxes and they recomend to eat any special k product as a healthy snack.

Doea any body know if they are ok to eat if i get peckish??

Thanks very much
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    RE: Are special k bars ok as a snack? 2005/07/28 14:39:03 (permalink)
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    wouldnt thought they would be bad for you but you could do better.
    try making your own flapjacks, cheaper, taste nicer and they fill you up. The special K bars are pretty small and dont even touch the sides.
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    RE: Are special k bars ok as a snack? 2005/07/28 14:41:14 (permalink)
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    90 calories of sugar

    although not an issue IMO assuming whole diet is of suitable quality
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    RE: Are special k bars ok as a snack? 2005/07/28 14:46:17 (permalink)
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    The only sugar i have is in a bowl of special k i have in the morning with my protein milkshake (thats assuming there is sugar in special k, because i dont add any). so do you think one bar a day would be ok i need something sweet or a little hungry?
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    RE: Are special k bars ok as a snack? 2005/07/28 14:50:07 (permalink)
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    the whole diet is key in relation to goals

    its an impossible question to answer TBH as one componenet doesnt make a diet, timing, meal choice and quantity do
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    RE: Are special k bars ok as a snack? 2005/07/28 14:57:54 (permalink)
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    ok here goes

    6:30- train

    7:30 PWO protein shake

    8:30- bowl of special k and Protein milkshake

    10:30- chicken sandwhich on granery bread

    1:30- jacket potatoe with chicken chunks

    4:30- Protein milkshake and 2 ryvita

    7:30- 2 chicken breasts.

    Im trying to get my body fat into single digits so i cut out carbs after around 5 pm.

    im also taking hydroxytrim.

    How does this look?
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    RE: Are special k bars ok as a snack? 2005/07/28 15:03:49 (permalink)
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    OK
    what do you do to fuel training at 6.30am? what type of training is it?
    where is the fat?
    IMO too much powder
    not enough veg and fruit
    poor carb choice
    no slow release protein last thing
    incomplete meal
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    RE: Are special k bars ok as a snack? 2005/07/28 15:08:00 (permalink)
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    i train on an empty stomach to lose more fat.

    mon, wed, fri i dom weights. the other days i do 35-40 mins of cardio.

    what carbs would you suggest instead of the ones im eating at the mo?

    could you suggest a slow releasing protein to take before bed?

    Are you saying that cutting out carbs after a certain time is a bad idea?

    thanks a lot for your help
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    RE: Are special k bars ok as a snack? 2005/07/28 15:16:37 (permalink)
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    weight training requires glycogen for fuel. This has to come from carbs otherwise muscle will get metabolised for fuel instead. At best you wont be able to lift very well, at worst you'll feel like cr@p and not make any progress.

    Why no carbs after 5pm. Does the body stop burning carbs after 5pm, does the body have any real concept of time (apart from the daylight trigger) ???
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    RE: Are special k bars ok as a snack? 2005/07/28 15:24:08 (permalink)
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    i as told that the closer you eat carbs to bed time, the more chance they might get stored as fat. obviously this is one of many bodybuilding myths!!

    what would you suggest are some good carbs for the last meal of the day?
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    RE: Are special k bars ok as a snack? 2005/07/28 15:26:17 (permalink)
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    Cottage cheese is always a good one.
    Add some tuna and if some extra carbs a whole meal pitta.
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    RE: Are special k bars ok as a snack? 2005/07/28 15:30:34 (permalink)
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    IMO the body fat challenge that special K are touting at the moment is another bag of rubbish. If you're going to lose weight on a calorie controlled diet, having low nutrienty density food is a pointless start - after all, you'll still need all your vitamins, minerals, enzymes, fats, etc., so when you drop your calorie intake, you should include lots of nutrient dense foods instead of "90 calories of sugar" as TT quite rightly said. Again as per TT, you don't have any decent fat sources in there at all - fat is essential to life, and integral to weight loss. Flax/udos/nuts/nut oils etc are quick and easy to add in.

    In fact, it's almost as annoying as Nestle's "whole grain" initiative, which has conveniently ignored the fact that it's still processing the grain to hell - sure you should get more nutrients in them, but there's still the blood sugar issue....

    Glycogen can come from carbs, fats or protein - as paul says, you'll want to avoid using all your stores and delving into muscle stores. If you really want to train on an empty stomach, do really light cardio for 1hr+, just make sure it's very light and you can use fat as an energy source. This isn't the fastest way to loose weight by a long way though, and is generally only used to get rid of the last few lbs in a comp diet whilst trying to hold onto muscle.
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    RE: Are special k bars ok as a snack? 2005/07/28 15:35:19 (permalink)
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    Thanks for your reply.

    i only eat special k as im not keen on oatmeal (far to bland for me)!

    What kind of foods do you suggest as good sources of carbs?

    are flax oil caps a goos source of EFAs?

    And you also say that this is not the fattest way to lose fat? can you some advice on a better or faster way?

    thanks mate
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    RE: Are special k bars ok as a snack? 2005/07/28 15:58:07 (permalink)
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    ORIGINAL: Wildfire

    Thanks for your reply.

    i only eat special k as im not keen on oatmeal (far to bland for me)!

    Try weetabix,shredded wheat,muslii,branflakes etc


    What kind of foods do you suggest as good sources of carbs?

    TT has a good list that will pop up soon I suspect,starchy carbs are great mate,veg in other words.Lovely veg! wholegrain/wheat bread is tasty to.

    are flax oil caps a goos source of EFAs?

    Yes I believe so,if you have trouble getting in enough fat,peanut butter is great and so damn tasty,try to get the whole earth variety.

    And you also say that this is not the fattest way to lose fat? can you some advice on a better or faster way?


    I like A.M cardio on just whey/water for 30-45 but alot here will advocate HIIT,do a search on the cardio forum,some great debates and ideas to be found there and BTW fastest is not always best.


    thanks mate

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    RE: Are special k bars ok as a snack? 2005/07/28 16:02:50 (permalink)
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    oats may be bland but you can flavourr them with almost anything. I really like oats with a little honey.

    Special K IMO is processed cr@p which I'd only eat if there wasnt anything else on offer. I'd say white bread is probably a better choice.

    If I gave you 300cals worth of special K and 300cals of cooked oats, I bet you'd feel fuller with the oats

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    RE: Are special k bars ok as a snack? 2005/07/28 16:09:47 (permalink)
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    ORIGINAL: cliff_vtr

    oats may be bland but you can flavourr them with almost anything. I really like oats with a little honey.

    Special K IMO is processed cr@p which I'd only eat if there wasnt anything else on offer. I'd say white bread is probably a better choice.

    If I gave you 300cals worth of special K and 300cals of cooked oats, I bet you'd feel fuller with the oats





    True,crap like special K makes you hungry again withing half a hour hence no1 ever sticking to there 30mg bowl guideline crap.

    As said above try the oats with some added ingredients,tasty,filling and makes you strong!
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    RE: Are special k bars ok as a snack? 2005/07/28 16:29:10 (permalink)
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    LMAO @ 30g. My gf eats branflakes and she read that the "serving size" was 30g. So she weighed out 30g, and it was like a tiny amount that wouldnt have filled up a hamster. I said to her, what is a serving size, its individual is it not ??.

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    RE: Are special k bars ok as a snack? 2005/07/28 16:39:05 (permalink)
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    what kind of oats do you recomend. ive seen things like oat so simple itc are these ok?
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    RE: Are special k bars ok as a snack? 2005/07/28 16:42:04 (permalink)
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    Yes, flax caps are a good source of efas, esp omega3, but IMO you need far more than you'll get from a handful of caps a day, they should be used as a fall-back for when using an oil isn't practical. I'd said the very low intensity long haul cardio isn't the fastest way to lose fat, 'cos you don't exactly go through a lot of calories!! It just burns them slowly and from fat. Building muscle tissue is the best way to lose weight IMO - takes a lot of energy to do, and it raises your resting metabloic rate, so you burn more fat off when you're sat doing nowt.

    I used to be happy if a box of special K lasted 2 breakfasts. Used to have a bit of a love/hate relationship with it - loved the taste, hated the price, and hated the fact I loved the taste soo much I used to stuff myself till I felt sick (nasty milky burps - never got them of any other cereal), and had to buy another box... Annoying little cycle that one.
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    RE: Are special k bars ok as a snack? 2005/07/28 16:47:33 (permalink)
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    oats so simple tastes , really bad way of trying to get ppl to eat oats. Best oats I have tasted are "Sainsburys whole oats - taste the difference". 500g = £1-£2. Though the cheapy normal big bags of oats are still good, just dont get quick oats or oatsosimple sh1t.

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