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2006/07/10 17:14:18 (permalink)
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BWLA confusion

Just joined BWLA (£25 unaffliated membership) so that I can compete(powerlifting) in october (Manchester open). Received a membership card but little else except a referal to their website. This is completely devoted to Oly style weightlifting and is next to useless.
Found this link, http://jamesj74.users.btopenworld.com/british/divisions.htm for powerlifting but its very out of date and I cant even find a list of rules/regs for unequipped lifting etc.
Am I missing something?
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    stephen77
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    RE: BWLA confusion 2006/07/10 19:15:47 (permalink)
    not missing much to my as there have been poles to see if the powerlifts want to break away from BWLA.

    I have only been a member of BWLA for 18 months and never really got involved.

    I am sure there are other here who can shed more light on this.

    As for the rules, I have not seen them written down anywhere. I just trianed in a gym where some referres (who compete) go to ask.

    bascially
    bench - shoulders have to touch the bench. can;t move your bum and fett during the lift. You have to pause the weight on your chest. its about 1-2 secs. Not sure how long exactly. I just say the word "pause" then lift.

    Deadlift - no straps. lif the weight straight up to legs and back straight. You are not allowed to boucne the weight

    squat - once walked oput. Look at the ref. then they say lift. go down to X depth(must be diagrams around) then lift straight back up. The ref will say re-rack then walk the weight back in.you cna't move your feet during the lift or lean forward excessively.
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    RE: BWLA confusion 2006/07/10 19:58:09 (permalink)
    Download technical rules from the IPF site.
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    RE: BWLA confusion 2006/07/10 21:05:44 (permalink)
    What do you want to know mate?
    A lot of the senior BWLA members post on http://www.powerlifting.org.uk.
    post edited by robt - 2006/07/10 21:06:37
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    RE: BWLA confusion 2006/07/10 21:42:47 (permalink)
    Whereabouts do you train matey? There are quite a few members in the area and quite a few might be considering doing the meet.
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    RE: BWLA confusion 2006/07/10 22:18:09 (permalink)
    Thanks fellas
    I'll try that link, Rob. Ta
    Olly, I reain in Crewe.
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    RE: BWLA confusion 2006/07/11 11:29:09 (permalink)
    BAWLA are a bit of a shambolic organisation full stop. I did a BAWLA gym leaders course a number of years back and bought a life time membership so that the qualification would stay valid - never did get a membership card or anything. OUr club is affiliated and all we get is a little certificate each year for the wall. Now if it was me I'd send out reminders each year. a callander of events, list of rules, list of contacts, courses offered, etc. Wait til you do a comp where the refs don't know the rules properly!!
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    RE: BWLA confusion 2006/07/11 16:49:14 (permalink)
    ORIGINAL: Black Knight

    Thanks fellas
    I'll try that link, Rob. Ta
    Olly, I reain in Crewe.



    im not far from you - what gym do you go to?
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    RE: BWLA confusion 2006/07/11 18:37:18 (permalink)

    ORIGINAL: cowboy

    BAWLA are a bit of a shambolic organisation full stop. I did a BAWLA gym leaders course a number of years back and bought a life time membership so that the qualification would stay valid - never did get a membership card or anything. OUr club is affiliated and all we get is a little certificate each year for the wall. Now if it was me I'd send out reminders each year. a callander of events, list of rules, list of contacts, courses offered, etc. Wait til you do a comp where the refs don't know the rules properly!!


    i did a bench comp and failed a lift on not pausing, after watching my mates video and showing the ref, she agreed it was a 2-3 sec pause, i was gutted..
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    RE: BWLA confusion 2006/07/11 20:59:28 (permalink)

    ORIGINAL: supermick

    ORIGINAL: Black Knight

    Thanks fellas
    I'll try that link, Rob. Ta
    Olly, I reain in Crewe.



    im not far from you - what gym do you go to?

    Total Fitness. Its ok but Ive realised that I would be better off training somewhere a little more hard core! General advice for powerlifting seems to be to train with like minded and stronger people.
    Where do you train, Supermick?
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    RE: BWLA confusion 2006/07/11 21:29:48 (permalink)
    Ive looked into a few gyms in our area and PL specific ones are few and far between.

    Mail me - through here with your email address and we'll sort something. Your email option is turned off i think.

    Mick.
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    RE: BWLA confusion 2006/07/12 00:01:28 (permalink)

    ORIGINAL: Black Knight

    Total Fitness.


    I trained at Total Fitness in Cheadle for a change of scenery after suffering a knee injury. Great range of equipment, spacious, wonderfully maintained, full of beautiful people. Worst gym ever for my purposes - got out within a fortnight.

    Bar good. Rack good. Plates good. Distractions: BAD.
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    RE: BWLA confusion 2006/07/12 13:53:55 (permalink)

    ORIGINAL: scruffy

    i did a bench comp and failed a lift on not pausing, after watching my mates video and showing the ref, she agreed it was a 2-3 sec pause, i was gutted..


    I had a similar experiance at the British Uni's a few years back. They failed me on my opening squat for pausing on the way up. Now as long as you don't go back down then that's ok. When I pointed that out the ref got shirty and I didn't push it as I thought I'd be getting reds all the way if I pissed him off. However, one of the other competitors who'd lifted earlier in the day and who was my main competitor for the overall, came forward with a rule book and quoted it to the head ref. (shows the good sportsmanship there is in PL) They had to give me an extra lift.
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    RE: BWLA confusion 2006/07/12 14:15:32 (permalink)

    ORIGINAL: cowboy
    I had a similar experiance at the British Uni's a few years back. They failed me on my opening squat for pausing on the way up. Now as long as you don't go back down then that's ok. When I pointed that out the ref got shirty and I didn't push it as I thought I'd be getting reds all the way if I pissed him off. However, one of the other competitors who'd lifted earlier in the day and who was my main competitor for the overall, came forward with a rule book and quoted it to the head ref. (shows the good sportsmanship there is in PL) They had to give me an extra lift.


    Was this the one where Big Tom and I also competed (Edinburgh)? There were a few suspect calls that day.
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    RE: BWLA confusion 2006/07/12 15:09:00 (permalink)
    ORIGINAL: Doc D


    ORIGINAL: Black Knight

    Total Fitness.


    I trained at Total Fitness in Cheadle for a change of scenery after suffering a knee injury. Great range of equipment, spacious, wonderfully maintained, full of beautiful people. Worst gym ever for my purposes - got out within a fortnight.

    Bar good. Rack good. Plates good. Distractions: BAD.



    Maybe the total fitness in crewe may have a different clientle that the one in cheadle. lol.
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    RE: BWLA confusion 2006/07/12 15:19:11 (permalink)

    ORIGINAL: supermick
    Maybe the total fitness in crewe may have a different clientle that the one in cheadle. lol.


    Mebbe. I have no aversion to aesthetic delights (as long as my wife isn't watching me...) - it's just that there is a time and a place for everything, and when I train, I don't like distractions. Yes yes yes, I know: if I were *really* hardcore, I wouldn't be bothered by these distractions, or by screens playing MTV, or by people chatting on their mobile phones.. Strange, but I've never seen any of the above in serious lifting gyms, so maybe the members there aren't hardcore either...
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    RE: BWLA confusion 2006/07/12 15:27:08 (permalink)
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    ORIGINAL: supermick
    Maybe the total fitness in crewe may have a different clientle that the one in cheadle. lol.


    Mebbe. I have no aversion to aesthetic delights (as long as my wife isn't watching me...) - it's just that there is a time and a place for everything, and when I train, I don't like distractions. Yes yes yes, I know: if I were *really* hardcore, I wouldn't be bothered by these distractions, or by screens playing MTV, or by people chatting on their mobile phones.. Strange, but I've never seen any of the above in serious lifting gyms, so maybe the members there aren't hardcore either...


    i have a rule of thumb -
    If im on the iron - no women.
    Slower forms of cardio/warm ups - women acceptable.
    Intervals - No women.
    No TV ever ever ever.

    works well.
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    RE: BWLA confusion 2006/07/12 15:40:45 (permalink)

    ORIGINAL: supermick
    If im on the iron - no women.


    But can one be so categorical? What about a situation where the 'woman' is a serious lifter, perhaps even more dedicated to the task than you? Indeed, quite a few of the top women (who outlift me by a loooong way) probably wouldn't want *me* near them in case I got in *their* way.

    Not just political correctness on my part (Lord forbid!), but a serious point. It's just the case that I haven't been around that many serious female lifters (although certainly a few bodybuilders - who certainly weren't an erotic distraction, although I did try to get near to them to see if any overflow from their massive exogenous testosterone doses could benefit me).
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    RE: BWLA confusion 2006/07/12 16:00:57 (permalink)
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    ORIGINAL: supermick
    If im on the iron - no women.


    But can one be so categorical? What about a situation where the 'woman' is a serious lifter, perhaps even more dedicated to the task than you? Indeed, quite a few of the top women (who outlift me by a loooong way) probably wouldn't want *me* near them in case I got in *their* way.

    Not just political correctness on my part (Lord forbid!), but a serious point. It's just the case that I haven't been around that many serious female lifters (although certainly a few bodybuilders - who certainly weren't an erotic distraction, although I did try to get near to them to see if any overflow from their massive exogenous testosterone doses could benefit me).


    If i ever met said woman i would stalk her like a puppy, offering to spot and carry protein shakes for her.

    The end
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    RE: BWLA confusion 2006/07/13 23:08:24 (permalink)

    ORIGINAL: Doc D


    ORIGINAL: Black Knight

    Total Fitness.


    I trained at Total Fitness in Cheadle for a change of scenery after suffering a knee injury. Great range of equipment, spacious, wonderfully maintained, full of beautiful people. Worst gym ever for my purposes - got out within a fortnight.

    Bar good. Rack good. Plates good. Distractions: BAD.



    I love it! I don't mind the distractions. I mean, I'm pretty good at not getting distracted. But it's nice to be now and again and I don't find it hinders my lifting at all.
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